2010-01-19, 03:27 PM (This post was last modified: 2010-01-19, 08:01 PM by butterfλi.)
Haven't seen one of these so I'm making one. When an Evan board is created, this thread can be moved there I guess.
Anyway, I'm not 100% sure how many SP Evans even have because it looks like various quests for SP are available for them. So I'm just going to work my way from the ground up and discuss on which skills is an absolute must and which skill can be dropped if need be. The Evan skills tables can be found here (Fiel's) and here (Ayumilove's).
*Note: The number of available SP is incomplete and INCORRECT due to the quests for additional SP. If someone can fill me in, that would be great.
Also, comments are based on observations, videos and experience with similar skills. They are also open to discussions.
[size="4"]1st Mastery[/size] Level 10; Available SP from 10 to 20: 30
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[indent]Soul Dragon Maxed level: 20 Description: Strengthen the soul of your dragon, improving its basic attack Videos: N/A just a passive skill Comments: Standard passive skill that boosts attack. Similar to Marksmans Boost. Should it be maxed? Yes
Magic Missile Maxed level: 20 Description: Uses MP to attack a far-away enemy twice Videos: [one] Comments: Magic claw, basically. Standard attack skill of the first job magician. Should it be maxed? Add some points but it will be replaced by Thunderbolt somewhere in the 3x's.
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[size="4"]2nd Mastery[/size] Level 20; Available SP from 20 to 30: 30
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[indent]Fire Circle Maxed level: 20 Description: Use MP to attack a certain number of enemies with fire Videos: [one] [two] Comments: First mob attack Available. Should it be maxed? Sure but like Magic Missile, it can be dropped due to Ice Breath.
Teleport Maxed level: 20 Description: Teleport, etc. Videos: N/A. Comments: It's just teleport. Should it be maxed? Yes. Standard Teleport.
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[size="4"]3rd Mastery[/size] Level 30; Available SP from 30 to 40: 30
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[indent]Thunder Bolt Maxed level: 20 Description: Fire a lightning bolt to deal a strong hit on one enemy. Videos: [one] Comments: It's a 1v1 attack. Will replace Magic Missle. Should it be maxed? Maybe. See if other skills can replace it later on.
Magic Guard Maxed level: 20 Description: Magic Guard Videos: N/A Comments: Magic Gaurd Should it be maxed? Yes.
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[size="4"]4th Mastery[/size] Level 40; Available SP from 40 to 50: 30
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[indent]Ice Breath Maxed level: 20 Description: Chill your enemies for a period of time. Frost damage increases over time. Videos: [one] [two] Comments: Will be replacing Fire Circle from 2nd mastery. Should it be maxed? Yeah. Looks useful even in "4th job".
Elemental Reset Maxed level: 20 Description: Reduces the elemental effects of spells. Videos: N/A Comments: Just like Elemental Reset of the Cygnus magician. Should it be maxed? No idea. Anyone with personal experience using this as a Flame Wizard?
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[size="4"]5th Mastery[/size] Level 50; Available SP from 50 to 60: 30
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[indent]Magic Flare Maxed level: 20 Description: Hits one enemy with a magical light. Videos: [one] (level 80 version) [two] (level 120 version) Comments: 1v1 attack. Should it be maxed? I think... yes because it has different levels for 80 and 120 meaning there's a reason to use it.
Magic Shield Maxed level: 20 Description: Create a magical shield that will absorb damage for a certain period of time. Cooldown: 40 seconds. Videos: [one] Comments: Looks like power guard but for magic...? Should it be maxed? Maybe. Leaning towards no.
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[size="4"]6th Mastery[/size] Level 60; Available SP from 60 to 80: 60
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[indent]Critical Magic Maxed level: 15 Description: Gain a chance for a critical hit. Videos: Just look at the others. Standard crit. Comments: Huzzah critical damage! Stacks with Sharp eyes too I believe. Should it be maxed? Yes. omg pink numbers.
Dragon Thrust Maxed level: 20 Description: Knockback up to 6 enemies with a certain success rate. Videos: [one] [two] Comments: Huzzah dragon pulse \o/ (literally) Should it be maxed? Maybe. Bowmen need dragon pulse because they can't attack upclose. Magicians can so I don't know why we even have this skill. Leaning towards no.
Magic Booster Maxed level: 15 Description: Booster Videos: N/A Comments: More like Boostar Should it be maxed? Yes.
Slow Maxed level: 15 Description: For a duration of time, allow your attacks to reduce your enemy's speed for a duration. Videos: N/A Comments: It's a buff (I think), so you have to cast it to get the effect. From experience having maxed slow as an I/L archmage, slow was fun to play with but not really useful later on. Should it be maxed?Leaning towards no. But if you have spare points, it's fun to play with.
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[size="4"]7th Mastery[/size] Level 80; Available SP from 80 to 100: 60
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[indent]Magic Amplification Maxed level: 15 Description: Consume more MP to increase your basic attack Videos: N/A Comments: Standard elemental amp but weaker and costs 180% MP. Should it be maxed? Yes
Dragon Breath Maxed level: 20 Description: Bring flames together into a massive attack. Time to raise the flame is proportional to the damage. Videos: [one] [two] Comments: I don't know much about this skill. It looks like a mob attack that requires charging up. I personally never liked charge up attack. Some charge up attacks can be good like Assassinate but this is a mob attack with only 170 spell damage. Should it be maxed? Maybe. Leaning towards no.
Killing Wing Maxed level: 20 Description: Place a mark on your opponent. All future attacks are aimed at that opponent. Videos: N/A Comments: I have no idea how this skill works based on the description of it and found no videos of it. I think it's a 1v1 attack. Should it be maxed? No idea.
Magic Resistance Maxed level: 10 Description: Cast a buff on all party members to reduce the damage from magical attacks. Videos: N/A Comments: A party skill? For my magician class? Should it be maxed? Personally, I would try to max it because magicians are like nerds. They don't have any party skills.
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[size="4"]8th Mastery[/size] Level 100; Available SP from 100 to 120: 60
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[indent]Dragon Fury Maxed level: 10 Description: When your MP is kept in a certain range, gain a small boost to your power. Videos: N/A Comments: Okay, this skill is trippy. It's like berserk in the sense that it'll increase your attacks if you keep your MP within a certain range but more bit[size="2"]ch[/size]y. There is not only a maximum threshold, but it also has a minimum threshold, making it harder to maintain. At maxed, MP must be kept between 50% and 80%. Should it be maxed? Sure. Not sure how well an Evan can use the skill though.
Earthquake Maxed level: 20 Description: Smash your body into the earth to attack multiple enemies (fire elemental) Videos: [one] [two] Comments: Looks like a"4th job" mob attack that hits front and back. Should it be maxed? Well, the level 15x Evan in the video is using it so... sure, I guess.
Ghost Lettering Maxed level: 20 Description: Curse a monster using ghostly letters. For a certain time after the monster is cursed, it takes more damage. Videos: N/A Comments: Based on description alone, it sounds like... a 1v1 version of poison mist? Need more info in this. Should it be maxed? No idea.
Aurora Recovery Maxed level: 15 Description: All party members in the aura receive MP Recovery Videos: N/A Comments: Doesn't look that good. Should it be maxed? I wouldn't.
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[size="4"]9th Mastery[/size] Level 120; Available SP from 120 to 160: 120
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[indent]Magic Mastery Maxed level: 30 Description: Increase your skill mastery and basic attack Videos: N/A Comments: F[size="2"]u[/size]ck yeah, 90% mastery. Should it be maxed? Yes.
Maple Hero Maxed level: 30 Description: Maple Hero. Videos: N/A Comments: An Maple Hero. Should it be maxed? Yes... eventually lol.
Illusion Maxed level: 30 Description: Attack a single enemy four times, once with each of your duplicates. Videos: [one] [two] (it's in both of these videos somewhere. Too lazy to link the time.) [three] Comments: "4th job" 1v1 attack of the Evan. Should it be maxed? Yes.
Flame Wheel Maxed level: 30 Description: Cast a wheel shaped firewall to attack up to six enemies in front of you Videos: [one] Comments: Pokemon totally didn't do this already. Also, it's literally from one end of the screen to the other. Should it be maxed? Yes.
Awakening Maxed level: 5 Description: Use MP to escape from certain status ailments. The higher the level of this skill, the more ailments you can recover from. Videos: N/A Comments: Standard Awakening? Should it be maxed?I don't know, I never used Awakening before.
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[size="4"]10th Mastery[/size] Level 160; Available SP from 160 to 200: 120
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[indent]Onix's Blessing Maxed level: 30 Description: Increase the weapon defense, magic defense, and magic attack. Videos: N/A Comments: Buffs wdef, mdef, and matk. Should it be maxed? Maybe. +50 matk sounds nice but it only lasts 1 minute with a 2 minute cool down.
Blaze Maxed level: 30 Description: Attack a single enemy with a ball of fire. The ball of fire jumps to surrounding enemies if present Videos: [one] Comments: Fiel's comment: Think Chain Lightning, but with FIYAH Should it be maxed? Sure.
Dark Fog Maxed level: 30 Description: Videos: [one] Comments: Evan's version of magician's ultimates but 2x stronger and a 20 sec cooldown. Should it be maxed? Later on, I guess.
Soul Stone Maxed level: 20 Description: A buff is cast on one or two party members, which are chosen at RANDOM. If they die while the buff is in effect, they resurrect immediately at the spot. Videos: N/A Comments: lolrez Should it be maxed?Yes/no. I doubt Evans will replace bishops but more res is nice.
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Final comments:
Anyone with personal experience using Elemental Reset as a Flame Wizard?
I have no idea how Killing Wing and Ghost Lettering works.
Critical Magic stacks with Sharp Eyes, correct?
SSBB totally didn't do Evans first with the Pokemon trainer.
1) Killing wing: Imagine bullseye (4th job corsair skill) except it's faster and you can actually use it as a 1v1 skill. Ghost lettering: Makes your attacks stronger.
2) Yes crit stacks with SE.
3) Fog has a cooldown of 20 seconds.
4) Pretty sure onyx blessing has a 2 minute cooldown.
Dragon Thrust is a most definite max.
At level 65 Evans can go to Red Kents, and that skill will push them together when they are frozen and it does a good amount of damage.
1st mastery is level 10-20, (level 10 and up),
2nd mastery is level 20-30, availiable at level 20 and goes to 30;
etc
Well after each mastery you have "Available SP from 0 to 10: ?" which I assumed meant you think 1st mastery uses SP from those levels. o_O
ClawofBeta Wrote:Question: Can you save earlier skill points for later mastery skills?
Nope, SP is divided into masteries. When you level up, you get 3SP for the mastery you're currently in. (3 SP for both masteries if you are at a level with a new mastery)
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:Well after each mastery you have "Available SP from 0 to 10: ?" which I assumed meant you think 1st mastery uses SP from those levels. o_O
According to Fiel, these are the total amount of quest SP for each mastery:
Fiel Wrote:I did a regex search through the quest data to look for free SP being given out. Below is a list of all of the free SP you get for each job:
As for 9th and 10th mastery, everything can be maxed in those so there really isn't a question on whether something should be maxed or not. What's interesting is that 10th mastery has leftover SP. I wonder if that will be available to use on previous masteries.
An interesting note for Soul Stone is that it can possibly revive the user too, so Evans can resurrect themselves. It's basically Wheel of Destiny in the form of a skill. It does not revive you with buffs intact nor does it revive you at full HP.
2010-01-22, 02:24 PM (This post was last modified: 2010-01-22, 02:35 PM by JoeTang.)
As far as I know, Masteries 1&2 have interchangeable SP, as do 3&4, 5&6, 7&8, and 9&10. You cannot save SP from Mastery 1/2 and use it on Mastery 3/4 etc, but you can waste higher Mastery SP on lower Masteries.
This is evidenced by the fact that Evan SP Resets are divided into said five groups. If you can SP Reset points between 1&2 but not spend as such, it provides a retardedly large potential gap between NX and non-NX users. Unless these SP Resets are a blanket and only do apply to each specific mastery.
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