The best birth control ever

"Ye girl I got the needle, don't worry about it!"

i can see so many girls pregnant just from this statement...

"forgot condoms, what do?"
"lie about the needle"

If this procedure was easily reversible and tested a bit more then I would probably do it, in conjunction with being in a monogamous relationship.
Monogamous relationships *should* take care of any chance for STI and this procedure should take care of having to use a condom to protect each other from getting pregnant.
This has to be reversible though because I am 20 and if I decide that I want babies when I'm 25-28 and it turns out I can't until I'm 30+ I'll be pissed.
In terms of casual sex though, condoms are always #1.

Nice. I like the option of having birth control in the hands of the guy.

Nice. I like the option of having birth control in the hands of the guy.

That's how i feel as well.

Putting two suspicious sounding chemicals in a part of my body for a prolonged amount of time (10 years wut) doesn't sound like something I want to be doing. A quick search shows that dimethyl sulfoxide is mildly toxic, and styrene is potentially carcinogenic.
:l

To be fair, unless you're a member of the industry, it's likely that almost any substance is going to be "suspicious sounding".

I can't say anything to the extent of dimethyl sulfoxide's toxicity, but, in my mind, the world is too big a place to be worried about "potential carcinogenics".
Mostly because almost fucking everything is a confirmed carcinogenic or a "probable" carcinogenic.
Examples:
Alcoholic beverage consumption
Environmental tobacco smoke
Solar radiation
Wood dust
Art glass, glass containers, and press ware (manufacture of)
Engine exhaust, diesel
Frying, emissions from high-temperature
Hairdresser or barber (workplace exposure as)

How about this solution; stop being lazy, and stop giving people excuses to be lazy.
It doesn't take a lumberjack's worth of effort to, god forbid, remember AND use a condom/take a pill. e_e

Yeah, screw those women too lazy to take birth control pills! Clearly, all those women who don't want to take the pill are just not willing to put in the work!

Good thing you didn't make yourself sound like a male ignorant of women's issues right there.

This has to be reversible though because I am 20 and if I decide that I want babies when I'm 25-28 and it turns out I can't until I'm 30+ I'll be pissed.
In terms of casual sex though, condoms are always #1.

I'd mostly be hesitant about recommending it mostly because the study is so relatively new.
Then again, I'm always paranoid about potential long-term effects of chemicals.

I think those of you with various doubts as to safety, reversibility, etc, should click the links to find out. Especially the one labeled RISUG, which takes you to a page with more detailed information as to the testing already done in India (on rats, monkeys, and men), and the things yet to be tested.
Other links will inform you of the state of the program in the USA.

Nice. I like the option of having birth control in the hands of the guy.

Honestly, I'm more afraid of the female lying about being on the pill just to tie the guy down financially. But then, that's because I've seen it happen to a cousin of mine, some tub of lard tricked him and now he's paying for it. At least he broke up with her, god damn she was the definition of 3DPD.

Yeah, screw those women too lazy to take birth control pills! Clearly, all those women who don't want to take the pill are just not willing to put in the work!

Good thing you didn't make yourself sound like a male ignorant of women's issues right there.

I'm sure he didn't intend it as such. While there are side effects for women to take the initiative, there are also the women that would forget to take it because they are lazy. He didn't say all women.

Just like I'm sure birth control for guys could prove helpful/better suited for some people. If two people are in a more serious, committed relationship, then that option may be perfect for them. If it's just a 2-3 month long relationship, I don't see a purpose in it.

To be fair, unless you're a member of the industry, it's likely that almost any substance is going to be "suspicious sounding".
Yeah, screw those women too lazy to take birth control pills! Clearly, all those women who don't want to take the pill are just not willing to put in the work!

Good thing you didn't make yourself sound like a male ignorant of women's issues right there.

My parents are doctors and I talk to them about latest health technologies involving chemicals and clinical trials associated with them. I may not be a part of the industry, but I've got quite a good understanding of what's toxic and what isn't.

Way to take me completely out of context and accentuate everything negative that you perceived.

What I'm saying is that they (doctors and pharmaceuticals) are giving both women AND men more excuses to be lazy with these long-acting contraceptives, with complete disregard for possible exposure to toxins potential complications from procedures that could be more damaging to one's health.

Not to mention that these involve expensive procedures that are neither guaranteed to succeed, nor leave you intact. What I hate more is that it seems like they're sugar coating the study. "It's a safe* contraceptive method with non-toxic* chemicals!(*see brochure full medical and legal details)" This goes for all contraceptives in the testing phase, male, female, unisex, hermaphrodite.

I'm well aware of the side effects of taking the pill, let alone any kind of pill. I didn't say that -all- women did that, nor did I say that women should be placed at fault for such. Side effects are side effects, and I respect the decision to not take it if you don't want them. PS; I never even said that it's the woman's responsibility alone to deal with contraception. If I recall, packing condoms and using them are 100% the man's responsibility.

I mean, if I'm ever in a relationship and my (probably unfortunate, because I'm me) girlfriend tells me that she's not on the pill and doesn't want to take it, I'll try to be as responsible as I can for both of us. That's not to say I won't be responsible if she is taking the pill, I still would be. BECAUSE I CARE.

And I never singled out women either, wow where did you get that? Why do you constantly like twisting someone's words into something you can argue about? It vexes me.

I'm sure he didn't intend it as such. While there are side effects for women to take the initiative, there are also the women that would forget to take it because they are lazy. He didn't say all women.

I didn't.

Viaje's just a regular downer 'round these parts. >:l

Nice. I like the option of having birth control in the hands of the guy.

It is quite nice to see options in that department. For some reason, though, the general population of idiots for some reason thinks removing/reducing sperm makes you ejaculate less or nothing at all... I've heard this to be a main reason why men don't want to get a vasectomy even after having like 12 kids. :f6: oh, stupid people...

I'm sure he didn't intend it as such. While there are side effects for women to take the initiative, there are also the women that would forget to take it because they are lazy. He didn't say all women.

He didn't have to say "all women".

In a Rush Limbaugh-esque flurry of words, he only presented a single reason for which people might seek this procedure.
He can back-peddle all he wants and say "that's not what I meant", but it's what he said.

My parents are doctors and I talk to them about latest health technologies involving chemicals and clinical trials associated with them. I may not be a part of the industry, but I've got quite a good understanding of what's toxic and what isn't.

Way to take me completely out of context and accentuate everything negative that you perceived.

What I'm saying is that they (doctors and pharmaceuticals) are giving both women AND men more excuses to be lazy with these long-acting contraceptives, with complete disregard for possible exposure to toxins potential complications from procedures that could be more damaging to one's health.

Not to mention that these involve expensive procedures that are neither guaranteed to succeed, nor leave you intact. What I hate more is that it seems like they're sugar coating the study. "It's a safe* contraceptive method with non-toxic* chemicals!(*see brochure full medical and legal details)" This goes for all contraceptives in the testing phase, male, female, unisex, hermaphrodite.

I'm well aware of the side effects of taking the pill, let alone any kind of pill. I didn't say that -all- women did that, nor did I say that women should be placed at fault for such. Side effects are side effects, and I respect the decision to not take it if you don't want them. PS; I never even said that it's the woman's responsibility alone to deal with contraception. If I recall, packing condoms and using them are 100% the man's responsibility.

I mean, if I'm ever in a relationship and my (probably unfortunate, because I'm me) girlfriend tells me that she's not on the pill and doesn't want to take it, I'll try to be as responsible as I can for both of us. That's not to say I won't be responsible if she is taking the pill, I still would be. BECAUSE I CARE.

And I never singled out women either, wow where did you get that? Why do you constantly like twisting someone's words into something you can argue about? It vexes me.

Your parents being doctors does not innately make you a reliable source of insight.

Now, I'd love to hear how I took your words out of context or "twisted" them, but that would require you to actually have used them in a different context.

For someone who claims to have gained such vast knowledge just by having doctors as parents, you sure don't seem to have any insight into what a clinical trial is. Testing has already indicated that, yes, the method is guaranteed to succeed AND leave you intact. God, it's like you didn't even read the article.
Other issues, like "possible exposure to toxins potential complications from procedures", are the entire reason the clinical trial exists, and, based on those trials so far, this method appears to be safe.
Keep in mind that people who are actually qualified to do such research are performing and reviewing these trials, and that makes them better judges on this than you and your parents.

Of course, claiming that wanting a safer, more cost-effective contraceptive makes someone "lazy" pretty much ensured that your opinion was lacking in perspective in the first place.
Not that that should be surprising sense, as a virgin, you don't have any real personal experience to add to the discussion. It is, after all, so much easier to tell people what they should be doing when you don't have to do it yourself.
Here's some perspective though:
Claiming this might-be-innovation that could revolutionize contraceptive only serves to make people lazy makes you look about as crazy as those who might have shouted that the computer or the car were terrible creations.

I didn't.

Viaje's just a regular downer 'round these parts. >:l

Yeah, how dare I make people responsible for their words?
Clearly, I do it to be a "downer", not in hopes that people will stop saying utterly stupid things.

They tested 138 people and said it worked on 'most' of them, anyone who does clinical trials knows that's way too small a sample size to say it's guaranteed to work AND safe to use. They still don't know the extent of the toxicity, or the long term aftereffects it might have if it's reversed.

That's not at all what I meant by laziness, but whatever. I won't argue it because you're just going to accuse me of something else.

Why do you read into everything like what I say is as static as it can get. This isn't damn politics; not everything is clad in iron, ready for criticism, without any other meaning or reason. It's the god damn internet.


But okay, I'm a horrible person akin to Rush Limbaugh.
Whatever you say, I guess I can die now?

But okay, I'm a horrible person akin to Rush Limbaugh.

I always found Rush amusing to listen to, like listening to a schizophrenic parakeet who is afraid of everyone and everything. Take it as a compliment, you are an unintentional comedian!

They tested 138 people and said it worked on 'most' of them, anyone who does clinical trials knows that's way too small a sample size to say it's guaranteed to work AND safe to use. They still don't know the extent of the toxicity, or the long term aftereffects it might have if it's reversed.

Learn to read.
They had 139 men in the 2001-2002 trial.
Go find a calendar real quick, read the year, and tell me how many years have occurred since then, years in which more trials were and continue to be conducted.

By the way, India has been testing this procedure since 1993. For those who don't like math, that's 19 years.
Not long-term enough for you?

That's not at all what I meant by laziness, but whatever. I won't argue it because you're just going to accuse me of something else.

So you instead accuse yourself of not using the word "lazy" to mean "lazy".

Why do you read into everything like what I say is as static as it can get. This isn't damn politics; not everything is clad in iron, ready for criticism, without any other meaning or reason. It's the god damn internet.

This is the internet, and my personal belief is that when people offer up their opinions, their opinions also are being placed up for criticism.
The real question is why you are getting so upset by someone disagreeing with you.

But okay, I'm a horrible person akin to Rush Limbaugh.
Whatever you say, I guess I can die now?

What a mature response you have there.
Don't recall implying that Limbaugh was a horrible person nor that those who mimic his style should off themselves.

He didn't have to say "all women".

In a Rush Limbaugh-esque flurry of words, he only presented a single reason for which people might seek this procedure.
He can back-peddle all he wants and say "that's not what I meant", but it's what he said.

Not to be rude, I'm just calling how I see it; and to me it seems like something pretty trivial to start grilling someone over.
If I wanted flame wars, I'd go back to basilmarket

Not to be rude, I'm just calling how I see it; and to me it seems like something pretty trivial to start grilling someone over.
If I wanted flame wars, I'd go back to basilmarket

Put Viaje on ultra-ignore. Will save you many arguments for argument's sake.

Those who can't argue in a mature and proper way, don't even bother.

Put Viaje on ultra-ignore. Will save you many arguments for argument's sake.

Thanks for the heads up; I'll definitely heed that advice.

Alright guys, let's make bets on what the slang name for this will be.

Alright guys, let's make bets on what the slang name for this will be.

The d'ick snip.

"Yo? Did you get your d'ick snipped yet?"

"Nah... I accidentally got my girl pregnant."

"You f'ucking moron."