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Locked Wrote:So if I had no religion at all you would say I have no morals? Don't fool yourself.
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Some (many) religions contain moral teachings, but morality is not constricted to religion.
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Locked Wrote:So if I had no religion at all you would say I have no morals? Don't fool yourself.
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Moral are a huge part of religion, but they're not exclusive to it.
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Shidoshi Wrote:Moral are a huge part of religion, but they're not exclusive to it.
That is what I meant.
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2012-02-19, 06:53 PM
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I believe god exists, but I also believe "god" is also "satan", so I refuse to worship or even acknowledge it as a significant being. Beyond that single fact I'm nontheist; I don't believe in any religion at all, including atheism.
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Flonne Wrote:I believe god exists, but I also believe "god" is also "satan", so I refuse to worship or even acknowledge it as a significant being. Beyond that single fact I'm nontheist; I don't believe in any religion at all, including atheism.
Atheism is not a religion.
FFS.
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Raul Wrote:Atheism is not a religion.
FFS.
That's what the media wants you to believe.
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sverreerik Wrote:I really need to stop denying the signs; I am god.
Derosis Wrote:And god is me. So I'm guessing you're the other?
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案山子 Wrote:Agnostic I guess.
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sverreerik Wrote:I really need to stop denying the signs; I am god.
Derosis Wrote:And god is me. So I'm guessing you're the other?
sicnarf Wrote:Was hoping there would be Pastafarian, oh well.
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案山子 Wrote:Agnostic I guess.
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Heidi Wrote:No.... I wouldn't say that...
Morals are an important part of religion. But it isn't a case of "you have to be religious to have morals". You may have your own morals outside of religion. The thing I'm arguing against here is the claim that morals are not a part of religion, and the one that they aren't because of sacrifices, which aren't representative of religion as a whole.
How can morals be a part of religion yet you can have morals outside your religious teachings? That doesn't make sense to me AT ALL.
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RedRaven16 Wrote:How can morals be a part of religion yet you can have morals outside your religious teachings? That doesn't make sense to me AT ALL.
Religion influences morality?
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Raul Wrote:Atheism is not a religion.
FFS.
Depends on how you define religion.
I tend to define it as a system of beliefs (that is, opinions or convictions with no proof) about the supernatural (i.e., everything science doesn't have an answer to, such as how the universe came to be or what happens to our "self" after we die).
Going by this, the belief that there is no supernatural, is a religion too.
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RedRaven16 Wrote:How can morals be a part of religion yet you can have morals outside your religious teachings? That doesn't make sense to me AT ALL.
How can eggs be a part of quiche yet you can have eggs outside your quiche?
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I stopped believing in imaginary people when I found out Santa isn't real.
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Mark Wrote:I stopped believing in imaginary people when I found out Santa isn't real.
Let it all out, Mark. Let it all out.
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Mark Wrote:I stopped believing in imaginary people when I found out Santa isn't real. I'm a Santaist and i find that offensive.
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Raul Wrote:Atheism is not a religion.
FFS. Religion is a gathering of people for a common cause based on what they believe in spiritually. Atheism is a religion.
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2012-02-19, 07:39 PM
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RedRaven16 Wrote:How can morals be a part of religion yet you can have morals outside your religious teachings? That doesn't make sense to me AT ALL.
What.
Flonne Wrote:Religion is a gathering of people for a common cause based on what they believe in spiritually. Atheism is a religion.
Yes to your first sentence. No to your second sentence.
Belief is the key word. The defining principal of atheism is non-belief. Atheists just don't believe in any higher power, and that's where atheism stops. You can believe that this is all just a dream, you can believe that we sporadically appeared from nothingness, you can believe that you are God Almighty, but just so long as you don't believe in a higher power, you are an atheist.
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