Event AEE not so A?

There's already a *VIDEO* showing that shielding wards can blow up items if you have a dark scroll in your inventory (and I think this also requires a white scroll too). So who knows? Yeah I know all about logical fallicies, but you teenagers all went nuts when someone claimed shielding wards could destroy items, and then you guys became mysteriously very quiet (with NO apologies) after a video was posted of it.......

Chill, kid. The video was posted with no explanation of what happened. We were left to solve it OURSELVES and come to a unanimous conclusion.
We've already concluded that a Shielding Ward "Booms" items if you have a Dark Scroll in the same position / slot, not just in general.

I used like 4 before blowing up my crusader shoulder. Apparently enhancing it doesn't give it any stats, or I didn't get enough stars on it yet...

I used like 4 before blowing up my crusader shoulder. Apparently enhancing it doesn't give it any stats, or I didn't get enough stars on it yet...

The first enhance did give me extra dex. The last 3 didn't give anything though..

There's already a *VIDEO* showing that shielding wards can blow up items if you have a dark scroll in your inventory (and I think this also requires a white scroll too). So who knows? Yeah I know all about logical fallicies, but you teenagers all went nuts when someone claimed shielding wards could destroy items, and then you guys became mysteriously very quiet (with NO apologies) after a video was posted of it.......

Aw, isn't that cute. You went and resorted to calling everyone teenagers because we refuse to believe something that lacks the proper evidence.
Adorable.

Meanwhile, in adult land, we realize that the Shielding Ward glitch and the supposed booming AEEs are entirely disjointed. The former being true does not serve as proof of the latter.

In fact, even in the case of the Shielding Wards, it wasn't the Shielding Ward itself causing the boom.
The Wards were simply calling on the use of another scroll, and it was this scroll that caused the boom.

Apparently he's still waiting for an apology he'll never get.

peaches be trippin.

I used like 4 before blowing up my crusader shoulder. Apparently enhancing it doesn't give it any stats, or I didn't get enough stars on it yet...

Used one on my shoulder with same results, tried googling it and found a response on basil saying "is a 0-5 stat improve" or something like that (since I was too lazy to look if indeed it worked like that I took it as true), dissmised it as just pure bad luck, but I guess it wasn't luck after all.

There's already a *VIDEO* showing that shielding wards can blow up items if you have a dark scroll in your inventory (and I think this also requires a white scroll too). So who knows? Yeah I know all about logical fallicies, but you teenagers all went nuts when someone claimed shielding wards could destroy items, and then you guys became mysteriously very quiet (with NO apologies) after a video was posted of it.......

Shielding ward bug has nothing at all to do with AEE not being advanced. I don't even know why you are bringing it up as evidence for this thread.
Also I do hate when people say proven or confirmed when it really isn't. Have you used hundreds of event AEE's to test this out huh? or have you hacked Nexon and found the fault in the code? Then it is not proven at all..

However there is that small possibility that it could be true if it is we don't need to apologise for putting our opinion out there? It isn't like we insulted them by siding with logic instead of rumour?

And maybe there's a glitch that can make a sword turn into a random gun upon scrolling but it's very, very rare.
That's what we call an argument from ignorance, and it is a logical fallacy.
The burden of proof lies on those claiming that such a glitch exists, not on the ones who believe it doesn't.

Attempting to use "lulz its Nexon" as evidence that a glitch might be real is just as faulty.

Except that the example you used is not believable, where as a 100% scroll failing has happened before in Maplestory and worse things and is believable. It's not an argument from ignorance, it's an argument from experience.
I never said it was up to those not claiming it to prove it, only that them saying it hasn't happened to them isn't proof that it's not happening. Honestly, when there is no proof around people act like Nexon is the best company and always creates perfect updates with no glitches. If anyone has played the game for any decent length of time, they'd know Nexon is completely opposite to that. No proof =/= false rumour. I never tried to prove it either. Just said I am happy to believe it because of the company we are dealing with and it's past.

where as a 100% scroll failing has happened before

Show me proof in through video then we can talk

While I've never failed an AEE before, not even one from this event as I stated earlier.

I do remember back in the early MS days, like 06...failing a 100% overall dex scroll lol.

Except that the example you used is not believable, where as a 100% scroll failing has happened before in Maplestory and worse things and is believable. It's not an argument from ignorance, it's an argument from experience.
I never said it was up to those not claiming it to prove it, only that them saying it hasn't happened to them isn't proof that it's not happening. Honestly, when there is no proof around people act like Nexon is the best company and always creates perfect updates with no glitches. If anyone has played the game for any decent length of time, they'd know Nexon is completely opposite to that. No proof =/= false rumour. I never tried to prove it either. Just said I am happy to believe it because of the company we are dealing with and it's past.

It's not believable to you, but it could be believable to others. You know, similar to the exact situation we're discussing.
See the problem?
No, probably not; you've already predetermined your point of view.
And, yes, it is an argument from ignorance.

No one is pretending Nexon is perfect, so please leave your lies and hyperbole at the door.
I'm fairly sure everyone is well aware of Nexon's track record.
However, convicting someone of one mistake isn't enough to preconvict them every time a rumor pops up, and that's exactly what you're doing.

If Fiel were to come in here and say it was happening without proof, I'm pretty sure the majority of people here would believe him. Why? Because of past experience. Yet when someone comes in here you don't know saying something about a glitch without proof, past experience with Nexon goes out the window. As I said earlier, It's just my opinion as to why I'm happy to believe it. You can't prove it's not happening same as their is no proof it's happening. You've clearly "predetermined your point of view" too. So I'll just leave it at that, this won't get anywhere.

While I've never failed an AEE before, not even one from this event as I stated earlier.

I do remember back in the early MS days, like 06...failing a 100% overall dex scroll lol.

This is quite true. I believe Maple uses the same system for 100%s as the first generation Pokemon did, which is a rather outdated system.
In this system, "100%" is really 255/256, so you still have a 0.39% chance of failing it. Want more proof? Go watch any Pokemon TAS of the 1st gen games: 100% accuracy moves miss many times over.

It's the same thing with these 100% scrolls in Maple: they have a 0.39% chance of failure. Of course, this was in v0.55, I have no idea if they changed it when big bang came out.

The first enhance did give me extra dex. The last 3 didn't give anything though..

It was the same case for my shoulder as well. I used three enhancements, but only the first one gave me any stats (2 points to luck. Kind of sad too, since it was on a Wild Hunter).

This is quite true. I believe Maple uses the same system for 100%s as the first generation Pokemon did, which is a rather outdated system.
In this system, "100%" is really 255/256, so you still have a 0.39% chance of failing it. Want more proof? Go watch any Pokemon TAS of the 1st gen games: 100% accuracy moves miss many times over.

It's the same thing with these 100% scrolls in Maple: they have a 0.39% chance of failure. Of course, this was in v0.55, I have no idea if they changed it when big bang came out.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just missing something here, but you are saying because in pokemon 100% =/= 100% that in maplestory 100% =/= 100%? So Pokemon 100% means there is a .39% chance of missing and therefore Nexon used that in their game? I GOT IT. NEXON IS RUN BY POKEMON.

Edit: I'll actually give you the benfit of the doubt. Now go get me some actual proof.

If Fiel were to come in here and say it was happening without proof, I'm pretty sure the majority of people here would believe him. Why? Because of past experience. Yet when someone comes in here you don't know saying something about a glitch without proof, past experience with Nexon goes out the window. As I said earlier, It's just my opinion as to why I'm happy to believe it. You can't prove it's not happening same as their is no proof it's happening. You've clearly "predetermined your point of view" too. So I'll just leave it at that, this won't get anywhere.

fiel has a reputation to keep, saptazapta does not -- fiel loses the trust of all his fans and bosses for extractions if he goes around being a crackpot

also, not a single person has entered this thread with firsthand experience of this glitch, which is why were so skeptical. its always your friend, or your friends friend, and you dont know what kind of people they are or havent logged on to their account to see that yes indeed, their untradable weapon has no stars, and they only have 1 event AEE in their possession. theres nothing definitive or final. so of course we shoot it down, we dont want to be too scared to use these things that SAY theyre always super effective.

If Fiel were to come in here and say it was happening without proof, I'm pretty sure the majority of people here would believe him. Why? Because of past experience. Yet when someone comes in here you don't know saying something about a glitch without proof, past experience with Nexon goes out the window. As I said earlier, It's just my opinion as to why I'm happy to believe it. You can't prove it's not happening same as their is no proof it's happening. You've clearly "predetermined your point of view" too. So I'll just leave it at that, this won't get anywhere.

Oh, well looky there!
You reacted exactly as I predicted: stubbornly sticking to your nonsensical analogies.

I'm not as stubborn as you'd like to believe I am; you simply have provided absolutely zero reason to believe this rumor other than the fact that someone said it.
I believe in proof and evidence, not poorly vomited rhetoric.

No one has to prove it isn't happening.
The burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused.
If someone has a history of theft, and someone accusing them of stealing again, it's still up to the prosecution to prove that the accused was guilty of the more recent theft, not the accused's job to prove he didn't.

As for your attempt to appeal to Fiel's authority, he's been wrong plenty of times.
What a shocker. Almost like he's human.
As a human, he would have to show some code and cite the source for me to buy it.

Fixed.

Heard this too btw.

I'll fix it even further:

Thanks for making me afraid to use my AEEs.

Oh, well looky there!
You reacted exactly as I predicted: stubbornly sticking to your nonsensical analogies.

I'm not as stubborn as you'd like to believe I am; you simply have provided absolutely zero reason to believe this rumor other than the fact that someone said it.
I believe in proof and evidence, not poorly vomited rhetoric.

No one has to prove it isn't happening.
The burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused.
If someone has a history of theft, and someone accusing them of stealing again, it's still up to the prosecution to prove that the accused was guilty of the more recent theft, not the accused's job to prove he didn't.

As for your attempt to appeal to Fiel's authority, he's been wrong plenty of times.
What a shocker. Almost like he's human.
As a human, he would have to show some code and cite the source for me to buy it.

Am I not coming across clear enough? If not I apologise. I am in no way trying to prove that this glitch exists (or doesn't) and haven't since my first post. I am merely trying to say that it's not so hard to believe even without proof and that I will happily believe it. I never said that anyone else has to prove it and once again I repeat myself that just because it hasn't happened to you or anyone else posting in this thread, does not prove that it isn't happening.

If that person who has a history of theft, was accused again then yeh my "opinion" is that he probably did it. No, I didn't say it was proof. Nor did I ever try to prove it, only state my opinion. Is it hard to believe that he probably did it? No.
Nexon who has a history of glitches, is being accused of yet another glitch. Yeh it's my "opinion" that it's probably true. No I didn't say it was proof. Nor did I ever try to prove it, only state my opinion. Is it hard to believe that Nexon created yet another glitch? No.

Let me make it clear. All I ever said was that I'm happy to believe it's true and that I don't understand why so many people are sceptical given Nexon's History. I never tried to prove it.

I guess I just don't need proof of absolutely everything I hear from a human to believe it.

Not much point in taking what Viaje says to heart, Steve. He tends to be rather vicious in his debates, if you want to call them that.

Nah it's fine. I enjoy "debating" with well better people than I. I guess I learn a thing or two.