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Gotta say that from a programming standpoint this theory is quite unlikely. What you're saying here is that the server actually records the amount of time a character has opened an Evil box in a certain time period, and uses that to determine the probability of getting certain items.
It's certainly never been done before in GMS, as far as I'm aware (please correct me if I'm wrong). Quite unlikely. What is more possible is that you've ran into some terribly bad luck (or good luck, if you consider the fact you did get some good items at one point or another).
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I pen around 20 boxes a day, and so far I've got 10 miracle chaos scrolls 60%, and plenty of personaility potions. Only 2 times got potions.
Maybe I get less than you guys?
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Leaves Wrote:Gotta say that from a programming standpoint this theory is quite unlikely. What you're saying here is that the server actually records the amount of time a character has opened an Evil box in a certain time period, and uses that to determine the probability of getting certain items.
It's certainly never been done before in GMS, as far as I'm aware (please correct me if I'm wrong). Quite unlikely. What is more possible is that you've ran into some terribly bad luck (or good luck, if you consider the fact you did get some good items at one point or another).
it just records in any time, not in a certain time period. From a programming point of view it's not really hard at all. And it's not used to determine the probability of scrolls, it rather completely disables it from the server for the rest of the day, like zak/ht/pb.
Today I got the same result, within the first 20ish boxes I got 2-h weapon attack, 2 acc attack 60%, 1 chaos, then went for another 100 and came out all acc dex 60%, I actually went on my warrior today and went to crysys to find some boxes, guess what? A AEE came out of my first 5 boxes that I opened.
The fact that I got terrible luck along with other people is completely unlikely or the chances is so low it's like passing 30 stars on a weapon, we all open more than 200ish boxes a day, got the same sort of result(getting only good items at the start, then only acc stat scrolls afterwards), I mean obviously there is unlucky people, but not to the point they get the exact same result lol
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wouldnt be too surprised to find out some daily limit on good stuff exists.. coincidentally i have only gotten accessory str and dex (never luk or int) and only pirate equips on my mech.
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With my F/P wizard got pet equip for MATT... LOL!!
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hongyu Wrote:it just records in any time, not in a certain time period. From a programming point of view it's not really hard at all. And it's not used to determine the probability of scrolls, it rather completely disables it from the server for the rest of the day, like zak/ht/pb.
Today I got the same result, within the first 20ish boxes I got 2-h weapon attack, 2 acc attack 60%, 1 chaos, then went for another 100 and came out all acc dex 60%, I actually went on my warrior today and went to crysys to find some boxes, guess what? A AEE came out of my first 5 boxes that I opened.
The fact that I got terrible luck along with other people is completely unlikely or the chances is so low it's like passing 30 stars on a weapon, we all open more than 200ish boxes a day, got the same sort of result(getting only good items at the start, then only acc stat scrolls afterwards), I mean obviously there is unlucky people, but not to the point they get the exact same result lol
I like, hardly ever post, however I couldn't help but read this and want to respond. At the risk of sounding inflammatory, I agree with Leaves. I would argue that the fact "other people" aka the three pages worth of posts so far on this thread really only validates that about three pages worth of people (all of whom are inherent Southperrians by the way) out of the entire Mapling community are as unlucky/lucky as you are. 200 boxes a day or not, this is hardly a scientific poll. People are going to see what they want to see and the ones that agree with you will post.
Edit: Honestly, I don't like threads like this. You think long and hard enough about anything and you're bound to come up with all kinds of patterns and trends. I can't help but feel like all the speculation does is validate people who get good stuff and make people who get crud wonder what they did wrong. But I know that's just my opinion and probably not shared by the masses- I just edited this because I felt like it.
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I got 3 accessory attack scrolls out of 5 boxes (other 2 were accessory for dex and reindeer milk). Lucky me
Edit: I've probably opened 20 boxes or so, haven't gotten a single equip. Either get pots or some type of scroll.
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Yabloki Wrote:I like, hardly ever post, however I couldn't help but read this and want to respond. At the risk of sounding inflammatory, I agree with Leaves. I would argue that the fact "other people" aka the three pages worth of posts so far on this thread really only validates that about three pages worth of people (all of whom are inherent Southperrians by the way) out of the entire Mapling community are as unlucky/lucky as you are. 200 boxes a day or not, this is hardly a scientific poll. People are going to see what they want to see and the ones that agree with you will post.
Edit: Honestly, I don't like threads like this. You think long and hard enough about anything and you're bound to come up with all kinds of patterns and trends. I can't help but feel like all the speculation does is validate people who get good stuff and make people who get crud wonder what they did wrong. But I know that's just my opinion and probably not shared by the masses- I just edited this because I felt like it.
The test of a good theory is its ability to predict the future.
I made a prediction yesterday, that I would get no more "premium items" for the rest of the day, after having gotten some from the first 20 boxes I opened. That prediction came true. I opened at least 100 more boxes, and got only the minor prizes.
I will make the same prediction for tomorrow (it's coming up on midnight):
I will get ~5 premium items within the first 20 boxes I open, and then no more for the rest of the day no matter how many I hunt. (I intend to hunt as many boxes as I can anyway, because to me the Personality Trait items are desirable).
Premium items are: AEE, 100% pot, 60% Miracle/Regular Chaos, 15% accessory attack scroll, 60% pet attack scroll, 60% 1h/2h attack scroll.
Minor prizes are: Reindeer Milk, Sunrise Dew, 60% accessory for STR scroll, level 90 sword/axe/warrior glove/warrior boots, personality trait use items.
In fact, I will make the same prediction for any character you care to test this on, with appropriate adjustments for class. (I get STR and ATT scrolls, and warrior equips. A mage would get INT and M.ATT scrolls, and magician equips).
This is not a case of "people see what they want to see", it's an objectively verifiable theory.
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Honestly, after opening around 50+ boxes in a day i was still getting Chaos Scrolls, Acc ATT scrolls, Special Pot Scrolls and AEE, all rather late on, the first couple i had that day were Accessory Dex scrolls and a 2-handed weapon ATT scroll. Towards the end i was getting a lot of potions, but i feel thats mostly because i was getting so many boxes and was bound to get some eventually, not some weird coding thing.
So i dont really see what you guys are seeing.
Though i suppose it is possible considering that the boxes are already coded to some degree to give us items which are useful to us (Apply the same thing to Gachapon Nexon.)
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modular Wrote:wouldnt be too surprised to find out some daily limit on good stuff exists.. coincidentally i have only gotten accessory str and dex (never luk or int) and only pirate equips on my mech.
I'm fairly certain that what you get is based off of your class.
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Imagine Wrote:I'm fairly certain that what you get is based off of your class.
and if the box can track your class without being a different item for each class, what other sneaky things can nexon have put into the script?
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modular Wrote:and if the box can track your class without being a different item for each class, what other sneaky things can nexon have put into the script?
Fiel Wrote:I can create a Nexon patch file which erases your system32 directory if you'd like.
IllegallySane Wrote:Southperry: Sunshines and Lollipops!
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New day.
1st 30 boxes.
...hmmm...
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Netto Wrote:New day.
1st 30 boxes.
...hmmm...
lol... couldn't have hoped for a more perfect example.
I actually failed my own prediction, only got 3 premium items in the first 20 boxes, last one being a Chaos on box 16. Have to wait 'til 10AM to get more boxes and see whether I can get to 5 premiums fairly quickly, or am getting no more today.
(I'm not sure yet whether the counter is for boxes opened or premiums acquired, though Netto's results cause me to lean heavily towards the latter.)
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The above posters are correct, btw.
YESTERDAY afternoon (meaning yesterday, from this post date), on the first FIVE boxes I opened up, *TWO* of them were AEE scrolls. Two.
I opened over 50 the rest of the day, nothing good at all.
Also, the first time I ever did this on my blaze wizard, the very first box he opened was a pet matk 60%. A scroll I had never seen in hundreds of boxes.
It's DEFINITELY rigged.
ALSO, right after 12:01 AM hit around, I opened about 14 boxes quickly (on my main). The very first box was a pet matk 60%. This was the first pet matk 60% I *EVER* got on my main (already had found one on the blaze), and that is with over 200 boxes done (not sure the total, maybe I'm over 300 now). And, one of those first five after midnight was also a special potential scroll and a 15% matk. It went downhill from there.
There *IS* something going on behind the scenes.
And for those who claim shennigans, I don't know how many of you were playing during Christmas 2006, but do you remember when the Graham crackers were tradeable? The very first day of the event, they HARDLY dropped at all (you were lucky if you found one from every 50 monsters killed), but the closer you got to christmas day, the more the crackers dropped. Right before christmas, they dropped roughly from between one of every five monsters, to one out of every ten. I'm 100% sure of this. I remember how much I farmed in those days (since I used to train over 6 hours a day...).
This was REMOVED during 2007, when they did drop, but they dropped at the SAME abysmal slow drop rate as they did at the very beginning of 2006, and being untradeable now.
So yes, Big Brother IS watching. So remove your tinfoil hats.
The above poster nailed it--if Nexon can *BANANA* the reward chances, who knows what else is going on behind your back?
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Dark Link Wrote:Now figure that out for Magatia, where the area he spawns in is 3x3 box lol
I've only found him in one map there.
B-1
B-3
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Got a premium item on box 24: Pet for MATT.
Two boxes before that I got an AEE.
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I still want an AEE or potential scroll. All I've gotten is pots, useless equips, and a chaos scroll.
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opened 120 boxes so far today, dont think ill open more.
i dont recommend going past about 30 boxes a day
they dont expire, 30/day gets better stuff, they stack to 100/slot, and you have all the time in the world to open them because they dont expire. i challenge someone else to post a desirable item proc after the 1st 30 or 40 in a day.
edit: i, too, acquired 5 premiums today
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Leaves Wrote:Gotta say that from a programming standpoint this theory is quite unlikely. What you're saying here is that the server actually records the amount of time a character has opened an Evil box in a certain time period, and uses that to determine the probability of getting certain items.
It's certainly never been done before in GMS, as far as I'm aware (please correct me if I'm wrong). Quite unlikely. What is more possible is that you've ran into some terribly bad luck (or good luck, if you consider the fact you did get some good items at one point or another). While normally I would agree, I am reminded of the hot-time event screenshots proving that the Lucky Guy medal winners came in spurts all at the same time across all servers. If they can do something like that, why can't they impose a restriction on special rewards per day?
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