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Evan debates is just another magic < weapon debates. Its getting boring.
Its the same arch mages supporting Evan and Melee/Ranged classes discriminating, c'mon guys. If a person thinks so, its not your problem.
As for me, im in love with mages in every other games. Definitely making an evan.
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cronnoponno Wrote: But Evan can do better mob damage with flame wheel than AM's!
Um, ultimates? The whole concept of mage is that they're the best mobbers in the game, I'd love to see you out dps an AM with flame wheel, as they ks you 1hkoing all the monsters in the vicinity. Chiefs are weak to ice now, I/L's will DESTROY them with blizzard, and CL will do just as good. Sure, Evans may be great against non-elemental or same-element monsters, but will anyone actually need to fight those? Maybe in the future, but as it is now, Skeles and Chiefs are basically the best spots to train at, therefore AM> Evan, Evans might be able to compare to a FP mage, but they're obviously better in mobbing in third job than any other class in the game.
I like Evan, the idea was cool, even though the dragon has no AI the attacks were just beautiful, I loved the idea of them being a mage that doesn't have to rely on a nuke button(ultimate) to train in fourth job, but still had some magic elements to it. I will also be making an Evan for the hell of it, and I will probably enjoy it a lot even if it is underpowered. But you probably shouldn't try to insist on digging up dirt on every possible thing that makes the Evan seem like they have anything worth aiming for.
However, this may change in the future, if for example they make new maps with monsters that are resistant to ice, lightning, and fire, and it becomes a main training area, then Evan will > AM, and such.
Goddamm, put your entire argument into one post, not parts of it into the quote where I confuse it with the bolded stuff.
Dude. The dragon is new. There is no other goddamm thing in the game which attacks for you when you press a button. Shadow Partner just copies your moves. And comparing it to Cash Shop weapons? You realize it takes a bit to realize the range limit of the dragon, as it attacks from behind you? That's what Hazzy was complaining about. On Cash shop weapons, just put it on, and BOOM, you're used to it. Even if you guys insist that the dragon isn't new, then who would I frigging care? Does every new class need to add something new to the game? No. Jesus Christ, I don't get why I have to argue with everyone about this.
Dual Blade...I'm arguing that it didn't introduce something unique. Yes, I know it has overpowered damage. Yes, I know they have a lot of mobility. But so do another class.... assassins. You could argue they have more damage, and more mobility, but that doesn't mean the concept is new. It just means that Nexon built on the idea.
And Evan's Magic Resistance has no cooldown. It is god. It means less HP washing for some folks at Pink Bean, Horntail, and Zakum. And yes, everyone would rather have a bishop in their party than an Evan. Even I do. But that's their niche in the game. Support skills for everyone who doesn't want to waste money on Nexon. Plus, they do quite more damage than a Bishop on single monsters with no resistances or weaknesses.
Now to your actual post.
But Evan can do better mob damage with flame wheel than AM's!
Where the pineapple did I, or anyone, say that? That made your entire first paragraph useless. AM's niche is to do godly mob damage. Evans suck compared to them against mobs, period.
Last, digging up dirt? Ptff. I'm just stating the facts.
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From the video's I've seen Evan look like they attack quite slowly and get hit a lot.
I'll make one but I dont know how far I'll get with it. lol
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Evan = 2 atk glasses mule
The last 2 fail classes (Aran/Evan) nexon introduced to us are used solely for item support for the ultimate Dual Blade class
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Chameleonic Wrote:From the video's I've seen Evan look like they attack quite slowly and get hit a lot.
I'll make one but I dont know how far I'll get with it. lol
Those are the old videos. They attack much faster now.
[video=youtube;HkSHx9W5FAk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSHx9W5FAk[/video]
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King Wrote:Evan = 2 atk glasses mule
The last 2 fail classes (Aran/Evan) nexon introduced to us are used solely for item support for the ultimate Dual Blade class
and why? is dual blade better than aran and evan?
saying "DU41 314D3 D035 M04R D4M4G3 lulz" doesn not count
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solarboy Wrote:and why? is dual blade better than aran and evan?
saying "DU41 314D3 D035 M04R D4M4G3 lulz" doesn not count
They are better.
I disagree making Evan and Aran to support Dual Blade, though.
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solarboy Wrote:and why? is dual blade better than aran and evan?
saying "DU41 314D3 D035 M04R D4M4G3 lulz" doesn not count
Of course they are better. Dual Blades practically have no cons.
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Bribery Wrote:Of course they are better. Dual Blades practically have no cons.
Thats the point, why play a class that is so easy that you will get a breeze through all the game in no time without much effort?
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solarboy Wrote:Thats the point, why play a class that is so easy that you will get a breeze through all the game in no time without much effort?
Because I put up with being an Xbowman for 176 levels. lol
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solarboy Wrote:Thats the point, why play a class that is so easy that you will get a breeze through all the game in no time without much effort?
Why spend time on a class that isn't worth it in the end (ie. Evans).
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solarboy Wrote:Thats the point, why play a class that is so easy that you will get a breeze through all the game in no time without much effort?
....so you can get to level 200 with no effort.
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ClawofBeta Wrote:....so you can get to level 200 with no effort.
If you want to do that play a private server
No seriously I prefer a class with a challenge and not a class that can slo zakum just by saying "shamalamadingdong"
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solarboy Wrote:If you want to do that play a private server
No seriously I prefer a class with a challenge and not a class that can slo zakum just by saying "shamalamadingdong"
Then go make a permanent beginner.
I'm still not quite sure what terms you're thinking of when you say "better."
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Bribery Wrote:Why spend time on a class that isn't worth it in the end (ie. Evans).
Not worthy? why? cause you hate mages? I would like to know your reasons.
Dual bladers cons? HP for ME thats the worse cons ever.
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Asumi Wrote:Not worthy? why? cause you hate mages? I would like to know your reasons.
Dual bladers con? HP for ME thats the worse con ever.
No, I actually love the Magician class. However, Mages don't have any end-game content to look forward to. Evans aren't that useful either, except maybe at Pink Bean. I'm just mad at how half-assed Evans are after seeing Dual Blades and Arans. I was really looking forward to what Nexon had in store for the Mage hero. They gave us a regular Magician with a Dragon that is no different from a CS item.
As for Dual Blader's HP, it isn't as bad as it was initially in KMST. Their HP is similar to Buccaneers and Arans, and they have very good invincibility frames.
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Bribery Wrote:No, I actually love the Magician class. However, Mages don't have any end-game content to look forward to. Evans aren't that useful either, except maybe at Pink Bean. I'm just mad at how half-assed Evans are after seeing Dual Blades and Arans. I was really looking forward to what Nexon had in store for the Mage hero. They gave us a regular Magician with a Dragon that is no different from a CS item.
As for Dual Blader's HP, it isn't as bad as it was initially in KMST. Their HP is similar to Buccaneers and Arans, and they have very good invincibility frames.
How is being able to practically 1hko everything not pay-off ?
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solarboy Wrote:Thats the point, why play a class that is so easy that you will get a breeze through all the game in no time without much effort?
You want to put in effort in maplestory??? Go making a perma beginner with no leech hitting snails to level 200
cuz in the end nobody cares what you do but yourself
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MapleStory has no endgame content anyway. Killing Zakum and HT is only entertaining for so long.
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King Wrote:You want to put in effort in maplestory??? Go making a perma beginner with no leech hitting snails to level 200
cuz in the end nobody cares what you do but yourself
Lol you are mad.
What I meant, is that I want to feel that I achieved something that not so much ppl could do, like getting a cleric to lv 70 in the old days, that was PAIN
Now tell me what would make you feel better?
Run 10 Kilometers with a shoe that makes you go as fast as a car without making you feel tired
or
Run 5 Kilometers normaly
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