Exp Formula Returning Back To Normal?

2 second lag at Himes - Priest dies - 10% lost. Here you go, the hour that you've been training has gone for nothing.

That's how it was for all the ranged classes that trained there upwards of 15x back before 4th job came out. At least Priests have the option of using MG and spamming SR to kill faster. Ranged classes have no such luxury.

those qqing priests should stfu because after a few levels they would become the best class in game...they deserve to have slow level speed before 4th job

those qqing priests should stfu because after a few levels they would become the best class in game...they deserve to have slow level speed before 4th job

That's all opinion as to what the "best class in the game" is. >_> IMO, Priests don't deserve getting the shaft. I really have no problem with this formula, but I honestly feel for the Priests who have to rely on parties to level up.

I would say that a better solution to this is to add more Priest-friendly maps that can at least be soloed instead of just Himes (or Grims, possibly) and keep the EXP formula.

I mean, there are great training places for Clerics and novice Priests such as MP3, Wraiths and V/Hoodoos, but the lack of 100+ training spots for Priests alone is kinda disappointing.

That's all opinion as to what the "best class in the game" is. >_> IMO, Priests don't deserve getting the shaft. I really have no problem with this formula, but I honestly feel for the Priests who have to rely on parties to level up.

I would say that a better solution to this is to add more Priest-friendly maps that can at least be soloed instead of just Himes (or Grims, possibly) and keep the EXP formula.

I mean, there are great training places for Clerics and novice Priests such as MP3, Wraiths and V/Hoodoos, but the lack of 100+ training spots for Priests alone is kinda disappointing.

Galloperas.

They do need more non-World Tour alternatives.

Galloperas.

They do need more non-World Tour alternatives.

Oh right, I forgot about those. Seeing as Galloperas were always full of leechers before, I forget that this EXP update might have freed a few maps. :|

Oh right, I forgot about those. Seeing as Galloperas were always full of leechers before, I forget that this EXP update might have freed a few maps. :|

More like ALL free maps. I CC'd through Gallos and only found 2 channels having people in them.

I am pretty sure the rebalance planned for January in KMS will also touch Priests . Watch a stronger Shinning Ray, some fixes to Holy Simbol and A piercing Angel's Ray with increased attack that hits up to 3 monsters. So priest, stop complaining at least until January's KMS patch.

P.D.: those are just examples of what could be changed so keep the "those changes are crap" comment to yourselves.

I think the only legitimate complaint I've seen all thread is the party of 2 with HS losing exp due to the 110% cap...

People who "train" with bishops... face the facts, you were leeching, you were always leeching, you just didn't want to admit it cause it sounds bad. If the roles were reversed and say a bishop were doing nothing but HS'ing and healing you at bigfoot, would you say the bishop deserved 40% of the exp just for being there? (I would but that's cause I get 110% exp with HS; the priest/bishop that comes with me tends to be much lower level, but pretend we're talking equal level here).

As for clerics/priests, it's not a "major" nerf if you're doing damage yourself as well. I've known plenty of solo clerics/priests in my time, and some of the highest level priests (Before 4th job came out) were solo priests. Perhaps it is harder for them to train now, but hey if you think clerics are bad, try soloing on an unfunded warrior. At least clerics can just spam heal and have 0 pot cost at lower levels. I'm sure other classes have their disadvantages and leveling difficulties too, I'm a warrior player myself so I can only express my difficulties. I have played clerics and priests as well, if anything they need to make training those classes harder. By harder I don't mean slower, I mean more challenging. It's so easy to hold heal and watch TV. I only quit my cleric because it was so boring. (Who to thunk it. a class more boring than soloing as a warrior. xD)

As always, this is just personal opinion.

I am pretty sure the rebalance planned for January in KMS will also touch Priests . Watch a stronger Shinning Ray, some fixes to Holy Simbol and A piercing Angel's Ray with increased attack that hits up to 3 monsters. So priest, stop complaining at least until January's KMS patch.

P.D.: those are just examples of what could be changed so keep the "those changes are crap" comment to yourselves.

A stronger Shining Ray may be possible since a change in the magic damage formula is in the future. The only change they can make to HS is the cap. And no other arrow-type spell pierces, why should Angel's Ray?

Besides, in that interview, that Nexon employee said that the main focuses are going to be AMs, Shadowers, and Pallys. Changes to other classes are most likely going to minor.

People who "train" with bishops... face the facts, you were leeching, you were always leeching, you just didn't want to admit it cause it sounds bad. If the roles were reversed and say a bishop were doing nothing but HS'ing and healing you at bigfoot, would you say the bishop deserved 40% of the exp just for being there? (I would but that's cause I get 110% exp with HS; the priest/bishop that comes with me tends to be much lower level, but pretend we're talking equal level here).

I would say that Priest deserves that exp because he kept Wraiths from hitting me, letting me kill faster, and that HS gave me nearly 50% more exp than if I soloed.

My thread on maplesea
http://forums.asiasoftsea.net/showthread.php?t=720156


you can exploit the party bonus by adding non attacking passive leechers to your party when you solo.

this gives you free 1.3x bonus if you have HS + 4 other leechers, and you being the sole damage attacker.. (even at bosses)

you can exploit the party bonus by adding non attacking passive leechers to your party when you solo.

this gives you free 1.3x bonus if you have HS + 4 other leechers, and you being the sole damage attacker.. (even at bosses)

Already been doing this with HS/door/Bless mule on my Aran.

More like ALL free maps. I CC'd through Gallos and only found 2 channels having people in them.

... seriously? YES. D:

Yeah, that's what I get for not checking. :3

theres no direct evidence that the exp will be changed back. knowing GMS we will be bck to leeching and buying 2x cards like no tommorow but who knows, are ultimates really that bad? its true bishops can be snobby and only train with other mages. or just leech because theres not much point hitting 200 anyway aside from echo and a lol dragon mount.

the problem isnt always ultimates. if u think of it this way. how about just change the exp gained differently on 4th job mobs like skelegons/ newties and higher monsters like oblivion section and higher. ultimates already cost a ****load unless u got hb and if people want better solutions they should damm well think of something clever. like you must kill atleast 5 monsters every minute or you get 0 exp. assuming this is skeles its not gonna be that hard.

but the problem is, who is that smart?

also. about the bossing issue. sometimes bishops or priests dont deserve **** at bosses for exp like an archer soloing bigfoot. but honestly id take one along even if he steals some of my exp just because i like to encourage partying. maybe make hs a stronger buff with only 2 people. like extend it to 200% instead?

Mhmm... I wouldn't mind soloing if there were better places for me to train solo. In terms of good HP/EXP ratio that is.

People who "train" with bishops... face the facts, you were leeching, you were always leeching, you just didn't want to admit it cause it sounds bad.

Ho ho, good one. Yeah me training with my equally lvled GF is TOTALLY leeching, despite the fact that we train at O4 and my killing speed isn't that much lower than hers, and that me training with her is beneficial to both of us (as most party training is) by keeping the spawn up for each other.

Hell, even at skeles it was more beneficial for her to have me bottom, simply because her having to move up and down the map while solo-ing was worse exp.

Learn the difference between party training and leeching.

Ho ho, good one. Yeah me training with my equally lvled GF is TOTALLY leeching, despite the fact that we train at O4 and my killing speed isn't that much lower than hers, and that me training with her is beneficial to both of us (as most party training is) by keeping the spawn up for each other.

Hell, even at skeles it was more beneficial for her to have me bottom, simply because her having to move up and down the map while solo-ing was worse exp.

Learn the difference between party training and leeching.

True or false: Your GF kills monsters at least twice as fast as you.

True or false: Your GF kills monsters at least twice as fast as you.

owned...

the only thing is.. skpting benefits both people... not only the bottom attacker thats the thing yo, you COULDDDDDDDDDDDDDD say that the bishop is leeeching spawnnnn off the bottom attackerrrrrr in return for them leeching someeeeee exp from the bishop. all that matters is that both people are benefitting from the party and is that everyone has fun in their STORY

Don't get all sourrrrrrr cause you could neeeeeeever find a bishop toooooo train with and get morrrrre exp>.>

Just because someone in your party is killing faster than you doesn't mean you're leeching.

Just because someone in your party is killing faster than you doesn't mean you're leeching.

yes it does