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Have you ever played Pokemon like it's "meant" to be played?
#21
Dusk Wrote:^That's only according to the obligatory "which game was the canon game?" question for people who care about the storyline.

The first game in the list is always the canon one; therefore the rival is named Silver. :<
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#22
This is also a good example of what I would classify as gross.
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#23
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:The second game in the list is always the canon one; therefore the rival is named Silver. :<

Not all games have to be canon. . .
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#24
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Not all games have to be canon. . .

I'm saying the FIRST one's canon, not all of them. And then the third game in the series comes along with all its tuneups that only apply in the anime :<
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#25
Do you have any proof that it's canon?
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#26
PEOPLE ARGUING ABOUT POKEMON.

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#27
Hardly good sir.
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#28
Oh, guess I'll have to barge into this conversation here. I assume I'm the only person on this forum who's actually read the Pokemon manga?

Gold is the name of the protagonist. It's canon, the official manga has him named as Gold. The rival is silver, that's how it is in the official manga. Gold is not Silver ans Silver is not Gold. The games have them as default options simply because that's the name of the games.

In case anyone wants to know, Red is the protagonist of the G/R/B/Y games. Even if you can start him out as Yellow, Green, Blue, or Red. Red is the canon name for him. Green is the canon name for your rival. Yellow and blue are characters that didn't appear in the games at all, both of which are female characters.

By the way, the creator of pokemon, Satoshi Tajiri, stated in an interview that he prefers the manga adaptation of pokemon than the anime. His envisioned world of pokemon more closely compares with the manga version, which is entirely different than the anime series and actually follows the storyline of the games more closely.

 Manga characters



Huggablehobo Wrote:LF> graphic pokemon version. where the attacks actually DO something.
*insert evil laughter here*

You might enjoy reading Pokemon special.
 Hurt Pikachu

[spoiler=Arbok hit by a slash attack, in the same page is a Psyduck hit by Arbok's acid]
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#29
Spideyjvc Wrote:Oh, guess I'll have to barge into this conversation here. I assume I'm the only person on this forum who's actually read the Pokemon manga?

No. I just believe the game canon (which there is none) and the anime and manga canon are completely different from each other.
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#30
Spideyjvc Wrote:Oh, guess I'll have to barge into this conversation here. I assume I'm the only person on this forum who's actually read the Pokemon manga?

Gold is the name of the protagonist. It's canon, the official manga has him named as Gold. The rival is silver, that's how it is in the official manga. Gold is not Silver ans Silver is not Gold. The games have them as default options simply because that's the name of the games.

In case anyone wants to know, Red is the protagonist of the G/R/B/Y games. Even if you can start him out as Yellow, Green, Blue, or Red. Red is the canon name for him. Green is the canon name for your rival. Yellow and blue are characters that didn't appear in the games at all, both of which are female characters.

By the way, the creator of pokemon, Satoshi Tajiri, stated in an interview that he prefers the manga adaptation of pokemon than the anime. His envisioned world of pokemon more closely compares with the manga version, which is entirely different than the anime series and actually follows the storyline of the games more closely.

 Manga characters





You might enjoy reading Pokemon special.
 Hurt Pikachu

Thank you.

Therefore, Gold is the canon version. This also means Red is the canon version.

Sorry Meta, but I don't know why you are trying to defense your point so badly despite even -pedia sites clearly stating Gold is the main character.



MetaSeraphim Wrote:No. I just believe the game canon (which there is none) and the anime and manga canon are completely different from each other.

How are they different when they didn't even bother with switching the main character? All the different versions mean is you can't catch "X" pokemon. It's more a marketing reason than they deciding to make the game canon and manga canon different.
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#31
I am not trying to defend it at all. :f6:
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#32
MetaSeraphim Wrote:No. . .

Main character = Gold, rival = Silver in Pokemon Gold. Main character = Silver, rival = Gold in Pokemon Silver.

MetaSeraphim Wrote:. . . . . . . . . . . . . *facepalm*

Have you even played the games? Because in Gold the main character is called Gold and the rival is called Silver. And in Silver the main character is called Silver and the rival is called Gold.

MetaSeraphim Wrote:No. I just believe the game canon (which there is none) and the anime and manga canon are completely different from each other.

This is called defending your point.
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#33
MetaSeraphim Wrote:No. I just believe the game canon (which there is none) and the anime and manga canon are completely different from each other.

The anime is different, it has nothing to do with the games storyline. It's the story of some other kid traveling the same places and possibly bumping into similar events.

The manga story line is an adaptation of the game's storyline. The names of the characters were picked from the original character designs made from the games. In other words, the names picked for the manga are the names the characters originally had when they were created. In the game, you're given the ability to name them whatever the hell you want. It also wouldn't make much sense to have the default name of the opposing game in the list of the game you purchased. So for the games, they put the first default name as the version you have.
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#34
IllegallySane Wrote:This is called defending your point.

Stating =/= defending son.

The fact is I was talking about the games, THE GAMES, in my first post. Not the manga.

Just because there is a manga based on the games doesn't make the games storyline automatically canon based on the manga. Games =/= manga =/= anime.

You wouldn't take a live-action movie based on an anime as canon, would you?
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#35
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Stating =/= defending son.

The fact is I was talking about the games, THE GAMES, in my first post. Not the manga.

Just because there is a manga based on the games doesn't make the games storyline automatically canon based on the manga. Games =/= manga =/= anime.

You wouldn't take a live-action movie based on an anime as canon, would you?

But I started the names of the characters in the manga were taken straight from the original names intended for the game. They didn't simply pick a version at random an say "that's his name, this will be her name."

The names picked for the manga are the names the characters were originally intended to have.
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#36
Manga adaptions are not normally considered canon, no idea why you'd ever consider the pokemon one canon. They take liberties with the source material, because it would be incredibly stupid to release 2 copies of the same book with character names swapped round just to follow the games.
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#37
Lozmaster Wrote:Manga adaptions are not normally considered canon, no idea why you'd ever consider the pokemon one canon. They take liberties with the source material, because it would be incredibly stupid to release 2 copies of the same book with character names swapped round just to follow the games.

But that's not what happened. Reread what I said please. The names that were picked for the manga characters are the names that the characters originally had for their concept designs used for the game. The manga uses the names that the heroins originally had.
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#38
When I played the Pokemon when I was a child, I played it as if I were playing a fighting game. I would just bash the opponents face in with whatever Pokemon I had at my disposal. However, I did play it smart and used the right elements against others, instead of using fire against water. That would be plain dumb. I didn't really care for my Pokemon. If they got to around 10% health, I'd go to the Pokemon care center place and heal them, but other than that, I forced their hand at battling.
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#39
Spideyjvc Wrote:But that's not what happened. Reread what I said please. The names that were picked for the manga characters are the names that the characters originally had for their concept designs used for the game. The manga uses the names that the heroins originally had.

Prove it.
"Because the manga says so" doesn't work as proof or make it true when it contradicts with half the original source material, i.e. one of the 2 pokemon games of that gen.

If we were going to take the official mangas as the canon, some of the key points to the ending to zelda: majoras mask is changed. BUT THATS OK, IT'S OFFICIAL! Sure, murdering the 4 kids wearing masks before fighting majora might be a LITTLE different to playing with them and giving them masks, then threatening the mask salesman, and destroying majoras mask instead of letting him leave with it, on good terms, but hey.
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#40
Lozmaster Wrote:Prove it.
"Because the manga says so" doesn't work as proof or make it true when it contradicts with half the original source material, i.e. one of the 2 pokemon games of that gen.

If we were going to take the official mangas as the canon, some of the key points to the ending to zelda: majoras mask is changed. BUT THATS OK, IT'S OFFICIAL! Sure, murdering the 4 kids wearing masks before fighting majora might be a LITTLE different to playing with them and giving them masks, then threatening the mask salesman, and destroying majoras mask instead of letting him leave with it, on good terms, but hey.

I answer your quote with something he posted earlier.

Spideyjvc Wrote:By the way, the creator of pokemon, Satoshi Tajiri, stated in an interview that he prefers the manga adaptation of pokemon than the anime. His envisioned world of pokemon more closely compares with the manga version, which is entirely different than the anime series and actually follows the storyline of the games more closely.
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