Why is mp recovery useless?

Well, I thought mp recovery was useless before until I saw that guy in the kmst video use it a few times. I maxed it thinking it would be a good skill, then took it off my keys after everyone convinced me it was useless compared to oak barrel. Also, we have 1 mp per meso pots which kind of nullifies any gain you might get.

After I watched the kmst video, I decided to try the skill out again. I didn't realize that you can use the skill without stopping to cast it. You can use it while walking (some of you probably already know this). I was thinking about how this skill could be useful when a lightbulb came on in my head . Completely forgot I had maxed energy drain lol. I lose almost 800 hp to gain 800 mp then use drain to gain my lost hp right back. With hb I get over 1.2k mp back. While training I've gone from using about 60-70 mp pots per hour to about 8.

I know some people are like "its not like mp pots are expensive". That's true. But the skill doesn't get in the way at all since you can use it while walking, so why not? Its free mp. A lot of free mp. Since I'm hp washing the skill will jus get better.

I just don't think this skill is as useless as people make it seem.

I don't know too much about Pirates (unlike on the topic of NLs, etc), so I'll say that if this was the case, then what you lose in order to gain maxed MP-Recov and maxed Drain? As in, what skills you have less SPs in, etc. In the end-game, it just depends on how useful it is. Speaking of which, does Drain (Pirate's) work on bosses as well? I never understood this.

You mean you can hold the drain button and the MPR button down and just recover MP every couple seconds?

I still prefer oak barrel. Both for lulz and for certain situations.

You mean you can hold the drain button and the MPR button down and just recover MP every couple seconds?

I still prefer oak barrel. Both for lulz and for certain situations.

Well I don't think you can use it as the same time as another skill, but you can use it while you're moving and it won't make you stop moving. The animation for it is also very fast and once you pres the button you can already start your next attack.

You can get oak barrel too. Max out oak barrel in 2nd job, then get mp recovery with your wasted shockwave points in 3rd job when you also have drain.

I was thinking about how this skill could be useful when a lightbulb came on in my head .

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that was just Nexon's new quests.

I'll be honest with you,training-wise.I don't see myself doing mp recovery + drain every now and then.I'd waste too much time while I could do other combos that would speed up my training. Oak barrel isn't that usefull but then again i'd rather have this than mp recovery.

Well I don't think you can use it as the same time as another skill, but you can use it while you're moving and it won't make you stop moving. The animation for it is also very fast and once you pres the button you can already start your next attack.

You can get oak barrel too. Max out oak barrel in 2nd job, then get mp recovery with your wasted shockwave points in 3rd job when you also have drain.

You mean instead of getting any shockwave at all just put all 21 points somewhere else? Rofl. Good idea. xD

I'll be honest with you,training-wise.I don't see myself doing mp recovery + drain every now and then.I'd waste too much time while I could do other combos that would speed up my training. Oak barrel isn't that usefull but then again i'd rather have this than mp recovery.

Stay tuned for pirate control video #2. Guess I gotta show some mp recovery in there too. Trust me, it doesn't get in the way at all. You don't have to use drain right after mp recovery, but being able to heal the lost hp with drain is a big plus.

at Felix

doublepost aside, i had been saying this quite a bit actually, both here and on sw, in various threads. But the thing i felt with it is that even w/o the "combo" with drain, since most of us use % hp pots like honsters, we already use less money doing mp recovery. The only real problem i had when i used it was that it takes a little bit longer then a mp pot, and that can be a inconveinence. I'd still rather have maxed barrel, but mp recovery is still useful.

if it didn't have the 25 sec cool down i'd max it

to be honest i can only see hp-washed brawlers/marauders/buccaneers use it to its fullest extent

what's our average HP (unwashed) at lv 200 anyway? is it somewhere between 9.5k and 10.5k?

I still love my oak barrel. Before pirates came out in gMS, the guides always followed as getting max MP recovery and 1 oak barrel.
But seeing it now, I don't really think it can beat barrel. It's a good skill I admit, but I do prefer barrel a lot more and I use it very often when traveling to far distances especially that map before the CWK jump quest.
I have my 1 MP recover on "-" key and I actually do forget that I have the skill sometimes :[

I thought it was stupid that you can't use MP recovery during Transform. I wanted to max it for similar reasons, so I did. Then I get to 3rd job and find out I can't even use it when I want to. And being that we have such good MP pots in gMS, it really boils down to being a minor money saver. I would have a higher opinion of it if you could at least use it during Transform...

I don't play a Brawler, but I can't see one good reason to get Oak Barrel over this skill. I don't need an Oak Barrel skill as a ranged class; what do Buccaneers need it for?

I thought it was stupid that you can't use MP recovery during Transform. I wanted to max it for similar reasons, so I did. Then I get to 3rd job and find out I can't even use it when I want to. And being that we have such good MP pots in gMS, it really boils down to being a minor money saver. I would have a higher opinion of it if you could at least use it during Transform...

Well...you can't use it in transform...yet. o_o

@ above: seduce?

This was what I was thinking too, because what shall be truly known as lolwave will give me an excuse to spend 18 points into Oak Barrel and MP Recovery, and have either keep 1 or have 3 points for the lulz.

You thought Snatch + Schockwave will be godly for mobbing DPS? What about..... Snatch + Dragon Strike?! OooOoooOooooOOooOooOoOOOo!

This isn't that much of a valid comparison but even as a theif, I don't use Dark Sight all that much anyways; only when walking through an HH while killing it. On my friend's brawler, don't use Oak Barrel, I just Screw Punch the monsters out of my way. (Unless they have too high avoid or I have too low accuracy... >_> I fail at debate lol.)

But as a personal opinion, I'd still pick MP Recovery over Oak Barrel, because there's at least some 'decent' effect, at least for me.

By the way, what makes Shockwave fail? o_o *idiot at brawlers*

*Corkscrews wyverns on the way to peak* -Gets hit by attacks- *Pots* - oh noes

*Waits for friend at himes to come back* -Gets raped by attacks- *Pots* - oh noes

*Gets peach slapped by some high level boss* -Gets raped- - oh noes



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This isn't that much of a valid comparison but even as a theif, I don't use Dark Sight all that much anyways; only when walking through an HH while killing it. On my friend's brawler, don't use Oak Barrel, I just Screw Punch the monsters out of my way. (Unless they have too high avoid or I have too low accuracy... >_> I fail at debate lol.)

But as a personal opinion, I'd still pick MP Recovery over Oak Barrel, because there's at least some 'decent' effect, at least for me.

By the way, what makes Shockwave fail? o_o *idiot at brawlers*

have to be transformed to use o.o and transformation has a cooldown

but the real problem is that stupid shockwave is land/map dependent, e.g. lumpy map = shockwave stopping half or not starting i forgot which, meh take kents map as an example

*Corkscrews wyverns on the way to peak* -Gets hit by attacks- *Pots* - oh noes

*Waits for friend at himes to come back* -Gets raped by attacks- *Pots* - oh noes

*Gets peach slapped by some high level boss* -Gets raped- - oh noes



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*uses level 1 barrel, dodges most of that anyway* oh noes?

*uses level 1 barrel, dodges most of that anyway* oh noes?

Big difference: If it breaks (which it probably will), you're fucked. If it doesn't, you still have to wait to use it again because the cooldown is longer than the duration.