2012-07-12, 07:26 PM
i should have specified elite pack timers. thats what the devs want you farming anyways.
i actually havent really run in to a boss enrage, my dh is kill or be killed (not run in circles, and shes had the dps to kill anything since before boss enrage timers) and my barb just walked through act 2 yesterday and i didnt happen to hit an enrage on belial w/ 27k dps (i found / was gifted a lot of his gear, bought the rest for < 100k/slot on AH... <500k weapons, i have a real nice offhand and a meh main hand). so i dont really care about boss enrages existing. whatever. they add a challenge for the people cruising their first play through. so be it.
however, my gripe with them is that (for example) kulle teleports to you and smacks you for a 1 shot. ok, he enrages... make him shoot 10x as many fireballs, those are dodgeable. maybe theyll 1 shot you too, thats fine. but dont make him teleswipe you. thats just stupid. against 10 fireballs, a dh will run out of disc, a wiz or wd will run out of cooldowns, a barb or monk cant facecheck that many... but saying "hey you have to be able to take 1 swipe of 150k before reductions and heal before the next randomly generated swipe or get x% more dps" (or however much it is)... thats pineappleing stupid. there is no skill, no quarter second warning. you cant say... pull off some epic vault/ss/tele/diamond skin/serenity/sss/sprint/leap/spirit walk and dodge the first fireball for free and keep moving for the rest of them. rakanoth has always been like this, and he was the boss i hated most on my first run through act 4 inferno. plain stupid. i had to solo it because of his tele (among other hopeless 1 shots, 1.02 mind you), and probably made my barb tank friend sad when i told him i thought i would have to solo right after we beat azmodan together.
belial is much better. he really is the best boss in the game. (hell 1 shot you even if youre properly geared on ranged, but) everything he does in phase 3 has ample warning and is avoidable through good old fashioned NES style reactions. for ranged, hes a soft dps check. and for melee, hes closer to a hard gear check. and i think thats fine personally, melee should be about damage mitigation and ranged about avoidance. and the market has matured enough that it doesnt take ridiculous amounts of farming and gold runs to pass the check for melee. the problems arise when you try to make ranged classes about mitigation, like kulle's or siegebreaker's enrage or ghom as a whole.
oh yeah they ruined siegebreaker. he was too easy because of the giant map or just how slow he is or something, but he was designed like belial in that you are given warning for his actions and arent forced into damage mitigation over avoidance. now hes a LoH/vamp check, and usually a hard dps check for ranged. if you made it to siegebreaker, more checks arent really necessary because youve already been fighting some of the hardest common/elite mobs in the game for half an act. instead, cut his casting times in half. then hes more challenging to avoid, but still well designed, and doesnt have unnecessary gear/spec checks.
there i go ranting again.
i actually havent really run in to a boss enrage, my dh is kill or be killed (not run in circles, and shes had the dps to kill anything since before boss enrage timers) and my barb just walked through act 2 yesterday and i didnt happen to hit an enrage on belial w/ 27k dps (i found / was gifted a lot of his gear, bought the rest for < 100k/slot on AH... <500k weapons, i have a real nice offhand and a meh main hand). so i dont really care about boss enrages existing. whatever. they add a challenge for the people cruising their first play through. so be it.
however, my gripe with them is that (for example) kulle teleports to you and smacks you for a 1 shot. ok, he enrages... make him shoot 10x as many fireballs, those are dodgeable. maybe theyll 1 shot you too, thats fine. but dont make him teleswipe you. thats just stupid. against 10 fireballs, a dh will run out of disc, a wiz or wd will run out of cooldowns, a barb or monk cant facecheck that many... but saying "hey you have to be able to take 1 swipe of 150k before reductions and heal before the next randomly generated swipe or get x% more dps" (or however much it is)... thats pineappleing stupid. there is no skill, no quarter second warning. you cant say... pull off some epic vault/ss/tele/diamond skin/serenity/sss/sprint/leap/spirit walk and dodge the first fireball for free and keep moving for the rest of them. rakanoth has always been like this, and he was the boss i hated most on my first run through act 4 inferno. plain stupid. i had to solo it because of his tele (among other hopeless 1 shots, 1.02 mind you), and probably made my barb tank friend sad when i told him i thought i would have to solo right after we beat azmodan together.
belial is much better. he really is the best boss in the game. (hell 1 shot you even if youre properly geared on ranged, but) everything he does in phase 3 has ample warning and is avoidable through good old fashioned NES style reactions. for ranged, hes a soft dps check. and for melee, hes closer to a hard gear check. and i think thats fine personally, melee should be about damage mitigation and ranged about avoidance. and the market has matured enough that it doesnt take ridiculous amounts of farming and gold runs to pass the check for melee. the problems arise when you try to make ranged classes about mitigation, like kulle's or siegebreaker's enrage or ghom as a whole.
oh yeah they ruined siegebreaker. he was too easy because of the giant map or just how slow he is or something, but he was designed like belial in that you are given warning for his actions and arent forced into damage mitigation over avoidance. now hes a LoH/vamp check, and usually a hard dps check for ranged. if you made it to siegebreaker, more checks arent really necessary because youve already been fighting some of the hardest common/elite mobs in the game for half an act. instead, cut his casting times in half. then hes more challenging to avoid, but still well designed, and doesnt have unnecessary gear/spec checks.
there i go ranting again.