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God's existence--A different approach
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SaptaZapta Wrote:I use extremes because I am trying to show that whatever triggered the big bang could be the OP's definition of "God", or it could be a "natural phenomenon" (of its universe), or it could be anything in between. We know nothing about it and can deduce nothing about it from what we know of our own universe.

But I see that I fail in communicating that, so I'm just going to bow out at this point. (Not promising not to jump in again later)

I don't honestly see the distinction between the two unless the first one implies a violation of the physical laws of the universe ala divine intervention "just" to cause the big bang, since the big bang itself appears to have been a natural part of the mechanics of the universe which, if it's a created thing, would then of course be something the creator was responsible for, whether directly or indirectly. Of course I am also not entirely clear on what the big bang has to do with whether or not there is a God in this context, so I either missed that bit or it was related to an assumption we don't share.

I do agree we know little about a lot, but disagree about our ability to deduce things. Even rats in a maze can determine their boundaries and test their strengths and look for openings.

Anywho, for anyone wanting further reading on this argument, since most of it is no where near as novel as we'd like to think; http://www.simulation-argument.com/
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God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 09:40 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 10:26 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 11:07 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 11:15 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 12:00 PM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 12:21 PM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 12:43 PM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-12, 02:18 PM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-15, 12:05 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-15, 10:54 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Taarie - 2012-07-23, 02:48 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Eos - 2012-07-23, 07:21 AM
God's existence--A different approach - by Fiel - 2012-07-23, 12:26 PM
God's existence--A different approach - by Stereo - 2012-07-24, 08:50 AM

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