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BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition
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Bribery Wrote:Every party has a DrK in Horntail. They are staples in every high level boss, thus this isn't a con.
1Bish + 5Bucs party's are very good possible at Horntail... No need for DkK's on those party's. Bucs and Bishops have enough stamina to survive without one.

Quote:But how much will it actually help the party? It's been proven that NL's attacking speed doesn't exceed a certain level, same with Heroes and their Fast Lunchboxes. Bowmaster's Hurricane has a set speed regardless of booster. Thus, Wind Booster only helps boost a DrK, Shadower, Paladin, or Marksman's damage.
I dunno... but sure it'll speed up buff casting and Heal/Dispell? Tongue

Quote:Good luck to an all Buccaneer party at Horntail once they are all seduced.
Seduce party's normally consist of other classes (1Bish/1DkK/4Shads). The Buc party wouldn't be seduced... If they would, they whole HTrun is failed... Smile

Quote:Thus, Buccanners don't really do much for a party in terms of DPS. They're good at Horntail for Countdown, but otherwise people are really overrating their bossing usefulness. Wind Booster doesn't affect the main attackers at Horntail (Bowmaster, Night Lord, and One-Handed Heroes). Barrage's range is too short to be of any use at Horntail and Leviathan is too slow to do give any decent damage output.
1Bish/5Buc Party's outdamage the traditional 1Bish/1DkK/1SEmule/3NL party's... Wink

Once 4th job Bucs become common in gMS Maple they will be replacing the some traditional party's at Zak/HT... I would say in about a year or so... It just depends how popular the class will become...

Takebacker Wrote:2) That second factor you would have to be retarded to take into account. It's completely unpredictable, thus void. Besides, the gap is big enough where that won't be an issue as well as the fact that 90 second down time is not that long. It's a good thing to note, but i GUARANTEE the downtime will NOT fill the void of a few million damage point gap.
Since you seem to know a lot more how long a Battleship lasts, can you please inform us how long it -ACTUALLY- will last? Smile

Quote:Lastly, you're not using my info for those calculations. The buccaneer in MY calculations has 105 att with no pot, 117 with a warrior elixir, and 125 att with energy charge. The captain has 125 att with no pot and 137 with a warrior elixir. They don't have the same attack base, and i suggest you change that in your calculations as well.
Buccaneer watt:
• 91 atk King Cent (lvl 100 knuckle)
• 12 atk BWGs
• 2 atk/10 str PAC
• 12 att potion
• 20 att from Energy Charge

Total: 137

Corsair watt:
• 91 atk Concerto (lvl 100 gun)
• 12 atk BWGs
• 2 atk/10 dex PAC
• 20 att Eternal Bullets
• 12 att potion

Total: 137

Hmmm I forgot the attack potion (137-12=125)... re-recalcs below... Smile

P.S. Energy Charge stacks with attack potions right? :o

Quote:Good luck using shockwave in the AIR if you're fighting HTs heads (or any other part of his body that isn't on the ground) or at zakums arms for that matter.
Why would using shockwave in the air be a problem? It has a large range... (330% I thought). I don't get your point? Smile

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Re-Recalcs:

Damage Range:
- Buccaneer (875str+110dex+137watt) => [(875 * 4.8 + 110) / 100] * 137) => 3257~5904 (avg 4580)
- Corsair (874dex+110str+137watt) => [(874 * 3.6 + 110) / 100] * 137) => 2478~4461 (avg 3469)

Damage Range after wdef penalty at Horntail (1760wdef):
- Buccaneer 4580 - 1760/2 = 3700
- Corsair 3469 - 1760/2 = 2589

ADPM (And including Advanced Homing for Corsairs)
- Buccaneer 106.620% DPM * 37.00 = 3.944.940 ADPM (Average Damage Per Minute)
- Corsair (138.180% DPM * 25.89) * 1.2 = 4.292.976 ADPM (Average Damage Per Minute)

Buccaneer damage is 92% of Corsair damage => Corsair wins in DPM
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BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by KingDragonXT - 2008-11-09, 10:16 AM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Kaasoljoyyx - 2008-11-09, 11:03 AM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Corn - 2008-11-09, 11:06 AM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by KingDragonXT - 2008-11-09, 11:07 AM
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BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Alloy - 2008-11-09, 11:26 AM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by KingDragonXT - 2008-11-09, 11:33 AM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Devil - 2008-11-09, 11:56 AM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Takebacker - 2008-11-09, 12:22 PM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Kurtle - 2008-11-09, 12:22 PM
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BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Lerk - 2008-11-09, 05:26 PM
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BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Devil - 2008-11-09, 06:21 PM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Bribery - 2008-11-09, 06:50 PM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Takebacker - 2008-11-09, 07:07 PM
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BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Rei - 2008-11-10, 09:18 PM
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BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by Devil - 2008-11-11, 08:54 AM
BattleshipCannon Vs Demolition - by KingDragonXT - 2008-11-11, 10:20 AM
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