2011-12-30, 12:43 AM
Exidous Wrote:Part of why were were talking past each other for a while there was because there are two relevant phases we were arguing about simultaneously.
1) Voter Registration
2) Actually voting
The OP article (the part I quoted anyway) is talking about #2 - what ID you need to have with you when you go to vote. In order to prove that you are you during #1, depending on the state you could well use an out of state drivers license, or even a student ID and such. The main part of registering is proving residency, which will require something in addition to your out of state drivers license anyway. Under the Wisconsin law at least, for #2, out of state IDs will no longer qualify - if you want to #2 there, you have to get an in state ID card, presumably when you #1.
The way the Wisconsin law prevents voter fraud - the two state voting for example - is by not issuing the free voter ID cards to non-state residents.
And yes, poop is an appropriate metaphor for voting.
Right, these laws effectively require an extra step for students who want to vote in the state they go to college to (if its not their home state). They have to go to the DMV (or something), provide proof that they are now residents of the state, and be issued a free state ID for voting. This need not have anything to do with drivers licenses.
The point that you're missing is to prove they are a state resident is the fact they have to get a drivers license in the state or prove their domicile is in that state. So in essence they are paying for that privilege to vote in said state. Therefore they are indirectly paying the state in order to vote in the election which is everyones point. This doesn't make us whatever negative opinion you said about us previously, I've honestly forgot.
To vote would mean to do the action, which would mean a prerequisite of registration is necessary which costs money therefore costs the voter money in order to vote.
WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT ANYMORE
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you Wrote:"Seven states have already passed strict laws requiring a government-issued ID (like a drivers license or a passport) to vote, which many students dont have, and 27 others are considering such measures. Many of those laws have been interpreted as prohibiting out-of-state drivers licenses from being used for voting."
So, are any of you actually opposed to this for a coherent reason?
Other than being pro voter fraud that helps your candidate of choice, of course.
How about that you're paying for something that you are entitled as an American to voice? And I have yet to see any argument to contradict this otherwise. So before you attempt to talk down to people perhaps you should understand the actual bill, which you do not.