2011-02-19, 12:20 AM
Cyadd Wrote:I wish I could be there, just for the sense of being apart of something. I really hope you guys pull through and get a good governor. Our's doesn't seem too bright yet.
Hey, Pat Quinn's awesome compared to Walker.
kanevaldier Wrote:The one thing in all this that really needs to be understood is that no matter what the unions will loose in this matter. The reason is that there is no money to continue with business as usual. Walker is doing the best thing he can in order to save jobs from being lost and to eliminate the need for furlos. Also, something else that is not being noted is that many of the people in the protests are being bussed in from out of state. What needs to be understood is that the people of the state voted him into office to do his job and fix the problems within the state. This is the first step in a long hard process. Wisconson, like many states is facing the reality of a major financial shortfall. One that can in fact bankrupt the state.
As for Obama and his remarks regarding the situation, he is the president of the united states but that does not give him the right to say what is and is not the way to handle this. He is also not a reliable source as his administration has created the largest debt this nation has ever seen and has not come up with a reasonable way to fix that himself as of yet. He should be focusing on his issues not the issues of other states at this time.
Dude. What the pineapple. Simple logic to combat your statement:
Scott Walker has said if the bill is not passed, there could be as many as 5500 layoffs. My mother is a teacher, and can thus relate to all those affected by the bill, and already told me she would quit her job if a bill like this came to Illinois and fucked with her livelihood.
So simple math: 166,000 public employees affected by this bill quitting their jobs >>>>>>> 5500 layoffs.
To state this again: Wisconsin GETS statewide financial hardships. We understand that. Believe it or not, that's probably why a lot of Wisconsinites voted for Scott Walker: because when on the campaign he said the first thing he'd do when taking office would be creating jobs. The first thing he did when he got to office was refuse $810 million from the federal government for the sole purpose of creating a high speed rail system between Madison and Milwaukee, which would, ironically, create tons of jobs, not just on the creation of the system, but in increasing travel between the two cities, benefiting local businesses springing up in the urban centers. The best part is that the money was free, with the only clause to use it that it be used only for that project; if the state refused, it would go to another state to create high speed rail systems.
tl;dr: The first thing Scott Walker did upon taking office was refuse free money and job creation, and now, six weeks later, has gone about the "job creation" process by stripping the rights of those currently with jobs, which will result, again, if passed, in thousands of job losses with people quitting and leaving the state.
I'm don't know everything about politics and how to run a state effectively, but common sense and a normal degree of mental competency shows that Scott Walker is beyond incompetent - he's a flat out, illogical idiot running Wisconsin into the ground.