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DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED
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VerrKol Wrote:Since I've seen this mentioned by a couple people now... What exactly has Trump brought up that we weren't already discussing?

Border security? We've been discussing his wall solution since before Bush. Deportation? Excepting Jeb Bush, I don't think Republicans ever gave up on this idea.
Abortion/PP? Nothing new here except the reversal of his position before running for office.
Economics? No one is discussing specifics beyond tax reform which we all know will go nowhere so he can safely present a plan. Interestingly, he's willing to cut defense spending, but I only found that out by doing specific research so not sure how visible that is in the national debates. I suppose we can give him points for bringing up ways to abuse bankruptcy laws.
Civil Rights? He's a misogynistic, racist bigot, but the only thing new we're discussing is how far his comments will go.
Crime? Zip.
Education? He's said nothing specific except that he wants to gut federal funding and leave it up to the states. Nothing innovative or even interesting.
Energy? Hasn't said a thing.
Environment? Global warming is a hoax and the EPA will be gutted. He's going farther than some Republicans, but that's not new.
Foreign Policy? Nothing but antagonistic rhetoric. I'll grant that he's got a different approach than anyone else.
Gun Control? Same old, same old.
Healthcare? Savings accounts. Not a new approach and not even discussed significantly.

I could go on, but I'm bored now. What exactly does Trump discuss or offer that no one else has? If anything, his antics are distracting the national debate from actual issues and actual solutions. I'm seriously confused where people got this impression. He's certainly willing to say things no one else will, but I've never seen him discuss anything.

He doesn't, he vents the emotional side of the countries personal problems which is causing actual discussion. All of those things have been discussed, but really half heartedly. The reason Trump is so appealing to so many people is he isn't a politician and he's really flexing that point. I'm not really voting for him, but I do see the appeal and recognize the issues brought up. It's painful to read this thread because it's just fox talking points vs msnbc(huffington), both are very extremist news stations in their own right. Overall even I can see Obama failed as a leader, it's kind of that, when the mother tries to be more best friends with their teenage daughter than a mother figure.

Obama will be remembered for two things, being the first black president, and Obama care (For better or for worse), that is a very, very terribly mediocre legacy to leave behind.

Polantaris Wrote:There's a significant difference here.

The Obama hate was because he was black, presumed to be muslim due to his name (and his name didn't help), and thought to not be a US citizen. Basically, all paranoia.

Trump is proven to be maniacal, says things that are horribly racist and would create huge international tension (if it already hasn't), and cannot be reigned in in any way if he goes out of control (which is almost guaranteed to happen). Basically, all serious problems.

The difference between the two is that the people who think logically and are intelligent, like myself, are the ones who are very, very worried about Trump becoming President, while it was racist bigots who were flipping out about Obama.

I don't give a pomegranate that he's white, old, and a business owner. I give a pomegranate that he's borderline crazy and says things that are complete opposites to this country's founding principles. The fact that he would even suggest that we should shut out an entire religion based on the religion is in complete contrast to what this nation is based on. You never heard Obama make such bigoted statements.

Unless he is actually fooling everyone and does a complete reversal to everything he says he stands for if he becomes President, things will be looking very dire if he gets elected.

The thing is, it's even more un-american to disqualify him because you specifically don't agree with him, in fact our founding fathers would have probably taken away your ability to vote if you really wanted to be technical about this. If trump wins, that tells you two things;

-The country want's an isolation-esque policy
-We're more concerned over our security than our humanity

I don't think either one is a bad or good answer, just the morale of the country will shift as time goes on (see gay marriage). Donald trump is not going to win, you don't have to worry about it, even the radical right wing has disowned him but praise him for his media manipulation. That's the bottom line really, he's no substance, he's the embodiment of majority of the countries frustration and is a very real problem. The candidates are going to be Bernie vs Ted cruz, I'm calling it now, and bernie is most likely going to win. He has a strong conviction towards his character, although I find his policies just as radical and unobtainable as any of donald trumps wall building lol
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DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Kobe - 2015-12-08, 03:40 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Arrol - 2015-12-08, 03:53 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2015-12-08, 04:48 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Arrol - 2015-12-08, 06:14 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2015-12-10, 03:47 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by RayGun - 2015-12-10, 05:43 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Malthe - 2015-12-10, 06:28 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2015-12-10, 08:52 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Arrol - 2015-12-11, 04:10 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2015-12-11, 07:10 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2015-12-11, 10:39 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by KhainiWest - 2015-12-11, 11:35 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2015-12-12, 12:02 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-01-30, 05:25 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Words - 2016-03-02, 09:25 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Words - 2016-03-03, 06:04 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-03, 08:31 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-03-04, 02:47 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Malthe - 2016-03-04, 04:43 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Malthe - 2016-03-04, 05:11 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Malthe - 2016-03-04, 05:32 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Malthe - 2016-03-04, 05:49 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Malthe - 2016-03-04, 06:12 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-05, 12:18 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-06, 11:32 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-07, 05:58 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-09, 09:20 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-09, 11:49 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-12, 02:05 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-13, 02:15 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-03-14, 02:09 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-03-18, 06:29 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-04-01, 10:00 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-04-12, 06:23 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-05-02, 04:24 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Eliseo - 2016-05-02, 04:40 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-05-02, 05:05 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Eliseo - 2016-05-02, 05:09 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Eliseo - 2016-05-04, 12:19 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-04, 02:24 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-05, 01:58 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-05, 11:00 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-07, 07:43 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-08, 07:00 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-09, 09:56 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-05-10, 12:42 AM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-10, 05:25 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-16, 09:01 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Eliseo - 2016-05-17, 05:00 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-05-17, 05:43 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Eliseo - 2016-05-17, 07:36 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Eliseo - 2016-05-17, 08:30 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Justin - 2016-05-17, 08:40 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Eliseo - 2016-05-17, 08:45 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-05-20, 11:14 PM
DONALD TRUMP [should be] DISQUALIFIED - by Flonne - 2016-07-28, 08:18 PM

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