[Rant] This game's practically dead in terms of actual content.

I agree with Zapta. This discussion of course started in all servers,

Okay well thats nice, but the person who started this discussion plays in GMS, and was referring to GMS, NOT ANY other version of maple.

including european, and I don't know how the situation in gms is, but here people can make very decent money through elite bosses (our bosses don't even drop cubes or fragments), not only by selling/using nx.

Well that's nice, but once again your missing the point of the thread

the awkward phase where you're in between being able to solo end game bosses and not, you get some insight on how much EFFORT it takes

This.

This shi't is fu'cked. The gap is f'ucking huge and theres nothing in between to fill the distance between pomegranate like normal magnus (which I'd consider the most realistic boss to solo without nx) and cRA. The gap to Lotus is even higher, even when you take into account PARTY PLAY.

I can literally tell you didn't read the first 2 pages of the thread by the fact you somehow missed this, conveniently of course

It's not restricted only to those who actually hunt elites or go "camp" maps, but also to merchers. One can argue that merch is 99% consistent of slates/cog/blades/prots, but they are so widely used that the market is kept well alive. Before elites we barely had 7 filled markets... it won't go back to when 20 rooms were full of shops but at least we got 13+ rooms consistently often. But I myself have never used nx on maple, except for some 2x exp cards, and as the 2nd or 3rd drk in my server I can't say that I'm weak. It's not to say that ah lore is a model, but that it's possible and actually very doable. I spent a very long time, yes, because when I started I was 13 and I could afford spending hours. The theory that "money is a shortcut for time" I have been preaching for long and glad to see someone shares the same view.

Once AGAIN, EMS IS NOT GMS, The whole, well I CAN DO IT IN EMS, SO DO IT IN GMS CRYBABIES, does not work here in any context because you have no clue what GMS players have to put up with. Not only do we have gold botters, we have elite botters, we have botters for everything< Literally. I am being literal here. There is a botter for everything in the fm.

What I don't like of the game as is now is not how it's impossible to progress, because that's so widely advertised but false.

Once again i can literally tell, you did not read this thread because you somehow missed

Yes they are improving. No one is denying this. No one is stating that the game has only been going down hill, maple history isn't so simple as to say this specific era of maplestory was the best ranging from pre big bang, post big bang or other big patches that people like to reference.. They all had their problems. But the issue that a lot of people have, is that even though nexon is improving on trying to lessen the pay to win gap, they aren't doing enough for it in GMS. While the disparity was smaller in KMS, that the fixes they implemented worked for their community, The power difference between players in GMS is so big, that the tiny bandages that they are putting on a missing limb is clearly not enough. And its this that is turning players off.

and similiar posts by Justin and many others through out the thread.

I agree the game has become more annoying in that all jobs have the same pattern and basically when you pick one as a newcomer you pick one according to what animations you like the most. Hope I'm not blind in hoping for 5th job to bring some variability, because while the aspect of making the game playable for everyone has encountered a huge progress since potential, the fun factor has been killed. Apparently I'm part of a small minority of people who enjoy upgrading their equips slowly rather than going around oh i want 2mil 2mil, I actually barely noticed when I broke 2m because many items are still work in progress and I'll call myself done only once they are perfect. But whenever I think of grinding a new character I want to simply kill myself.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, though. Just because it's POSSIBLE that doesn't mean it's realistic or should be done. First off, How many hours of gameplay do you think that is a day? I'm leaning towards 6, easily. More time than 90% of players have on ANY given day. Second, he REQUIRES multiple accounts to even achieve that much, and is borderline abusing the system and events to achieve those ends. All of which are heavily frowned upon by Nexon.

This isn't about something being possible to do, this is about it being fair, reasonable, and doable to the general populace. No one should have to have 3 or more accounts just to build up one character to not even 1/5th what the real money spenders are doing. Not to mention European players don't even have that option.

Bottom line is, there is no justification for the time:reward ratio in this game. It's blatantly shifted towards the pay wall end, and is not a goal anyone should really strive for.

I would like to agree with you, but there are a few things i'd like to point out. Yes your right that there are a multitude of ways to get MESOS in this game quite easily.

But PoetryIsFail and MuscleWizard do have a point. Once you reach the point where you can solo every Current Boss and future upcoming boss, there is money involved somewhere. Usually the case is that the person makes so much meso that they self sustain off that meso where they can just buy nx. Poetryisfail is more correct on his point that money is needed to defeat the top bosses and that there only available to those who are within the top .0001% because they can self sustain and buy nx of others.

Just going to bring this post from another thread that discussed a similar topic.

Yes its doable, but saying you can do it completely with no money, your deluding yourself. Buying Nx of someone with mesos, is still buying NX. Even if you lessen the amount of money you personally spent, Does not negate the point that money has such a huge advantage over players. It's completely ridiculous and broken in GMS.

First of all calm down. I'm not your daughter and you don't talk to me as an idiot because you're on your period and I'm not seconding you, mmkay?

First, Justin is not angry with you in particular at all, there's nothing in what he said in which you could draw this conclusion. Other than assuming of course, because he disagrees with you he is upset, because clearly your position is the correct one and he is just being a silly goose. He is not angry nor upset, and honestly as a question, what is up with EMS players always taking any form of disagreement as a personal attack on them.<Honest question, if you can answer. This isn't the first time its happen.

So if I say it's doable in ems, it's doable in gms supposedly the same way.

yes because you are clearly an authority on both EMS and GMS, and have fully experienced both so you can completely tell everyone that without a doubt its possible to reach CRA/Lotus Boss without spending any money what so ever and anyone that comments that there is possibly something wrong with the system are a bunch of whiners, because clearly they are.

Because you can clearly take Apples[GMS] and Oranges[EMS] and squeeze the Apple to get Orange juice. Because you know there the same...
/sarcasm

This comes from a person (me) that actually plays the game, whereas you said you have already sold your things, how do you claim to know better than me how things work in a game that I have played pauselessly? The progress is reasonable and consistent, but of course you have to put effort in it, if you want to be spoonfed your 2-2 progress then you did a very good job at quitting maplestory and likely any other mmorpg

Hi, my names KillerZero, and ive played this game for literally almost half my life. I started when i was in 6th grade, so i was 10, and i just literally hiatuses this year, I'm turning 22 in a few months. So i think, i think, maybe, just a little, I know how gms works, a bit better than someone who hasn't played it. Let me tell you, the progress is not reasonable nor consistent, it really comes down to what RNG wants to give you(usually bad) and what exploit is coming around which can negate everything you done for the month.

Don't bother replying with another full-insult argumentless outrage.

okay, but i will reply with my own post, calling you out on the parts that absolutely make no sense, and somehow i will be insulting you by disagreeing because somehow you are a clear expert on GMS and no one else can have an opinion worth merit because it disagrees with you. But that's okay, im already hated.

TLDR: Calling out the person on the fact they didn't read the thread and cherry picked their arguements.