2014-07-17, 09:37 AM
UltimaSteele Wrote:Previous failings are no justification for current imbalance. I could just as easily say that DKs sat at the top for a long time until 4th job was released, but it'd be fallacious reasoning for any sort of current discussion. DKs are pretty insane as is with crossover chains and perma-gungnir spam obtainable fairly easy; a hero just can't compare by any stretch of the imagination. Heroes having a combo cost removed on a useless skill and a cooldown reduction on an arguably even more useless skill is by no means "nexon catering to heroes." To say the three explorer warriors are the most balanced than they have ever been is laughable. I'd say that belonged to the time before any skill changes, back before 4th job was released. Sure, DKs were on top, but the difference was much more marginal then.
Regardless, this argument is largely moot considering these changes are likely just preparation for 5th job.
heroes right now sit as a better unfunded class, with dark knights becoming better on harder bosses, and paladins becoming the best at endgame, at least until capping.
and i do consider it catering to the heroes when the two skills that make the classes good are butchered to the next millenia, DrK's got a massive cut to gungnir to the point it isn't even worth looking at the class. right now a DrK spends 2/3'rds of a minute in gungnir without any buff duration. post patch with 50% buff duration (which is not easy to acquire as you say, see the many threads about people running out of points) spend 45 out of 70 seconds, that is, 1/2 of the time in perma gungnir, even if you massively get lucky and pay up your ass for the 80% buff duration you can get (50% inner, level 200 mech and level 100 empathy or whatever) that's 54 seconds out of 70, or 46 seconds out of a minute.
that's right, a DrK with every buff duration available only has a 6 second advantage over a clean current DrK. which is on it's pretty freaking hard to get.
and then there's the nerf to crossover on top. just to make sure DrK's do suck.
pallies got a skill named -void elemental- that doesn't void elements. to the point that it had it's name changed, at least they have a revive and some tricks to be useful to a party, but a DrK has literally nothing except HB, and that's only even useful if you're empressing, or tanking empress flames, that's it, nowhere else.
i'd disagree with the pre-4th comment but those were different times, DrK's having full map attack and everything and only them was pretty big. i myself did consider them pretty OP back then. i think the most balanced they had been was the short period after chaos.
what annoys me the most however is that after this i'm going to see threads of heroes claiming that they're still "oh so underpowered" because DrK's still have gungnir" or god knows what other thing they'll come up with. that's the part that annoys me the most