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U.S. Government Shutdown
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Flonne Wrote:If you read through the key points of it and don't understand why I don't like it, we aren't going to agree on it regardless of whether or not I type up 20 pages of reasons I don't like it, so why should I bother doing that?

I actually never asked you why you disliked A.C.A. or the government shut down. I simply asked you to explain your position since your key points tend to stand alone as being more representative of an emotional response than an actual opinion. I never asked you for 20 pages of reasons why you don't like it. I asked you to explain why you meant by your previous post. To clarify, I'm not interested in 20 pages of garbage from you. I just want a paragraph where you actually explain what your inflated opinions are actually about instead of being fed your typical Ayn Rand stylized b.s.

Flonne Wrote:Even given all of that, the shut down is ridiculous because it doesn't do anything other than make it crystal clear to anyone outside of this country that we aren't even stable enough to handle EACH OTHER. Congress is still getting paid, the only thing that changes is tons of people are all laid off. Which makes them want to blame someone, which in turn leads to even more polarization of the country. Pretty soon we aren't going to need to worry about terrorist activities, we are going to pineappleing wipe ourselves out.

Congress has always been dysfunctional. The shut down doesn't expose anything new to the outside world. Congress being paid while this occurs isn't surprising. Let's compare Congress to a federal agency such as the IRS, Lois Lerner was making three months of income until last week on paid leave after she blatantly lied about her involvement in discrimination against conservative groups. People who are temporarily without work due to the shut down aren't confirmed to have been laid off. The subtle consideration of time is an important aspect to consider when it comes to distinguishing many things i.e. child abandonment and child day-care. There's no reason to mass lay off government workers at this point in the discussion. When you mention 'even more polarization' I have no idea what is being increasingly polarized. I don't think we are going to wipe ourselves out like a terrorist would try to wipe us out because of the shut down. This is one of those slippery slope moments where I feel like you go from Point A and jump to point Bizzaro World.

Flonne Wrote:It doesn't make us weaker, it makes us LOOK weaker. Sure, we won't be weak if they actually attack, but the goal is to seem so intimidatingly powerful that they would never think of attacking in the first place; that image of the US has been undercut over and over again over the past year or so to the point that any country with an agenda against us is literally just mocking and taunting us at this point.

'They' would never think of attacking in the first place. 'That image' of the US has been undercut over and over again 'over the past year' or so to the point that 'any country' with an 'agenda' against us is literally just 'mocking and taunting us' at this point.

Sardines Wrote:Who are our enemies. Why does it matter. How do we appear 'weaker' in any way or form compared to whatever status quo we have established to volatile factions acros the world. What do you dislike about the Affordable Care Act. On what level does this government 'shut down' merit more cons in your opinion than having ACA implemented.

Who are our enemies. How do we appear weaker in any way or form compared to whatever status quo we have established to volatile factions across the world. What do you dislike about the Affordable Care Act.

Strike Points Addressed:From what I understand from you, being super intimidating leads to us being at peace. The government shut down prevents polarization of the country that will ultimately turn citizens into terrorists trying to wipe everyone out.
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U.S. Government Shutdown - by Hypermug - 2013-10-01, 12:11 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by KhainiWest - 2013-10-01, 12:16 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sephie - 2013-10-01, 03:16 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Lozmaster - 2013-10-01, 03:17 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by MuscleWizard - 2013-10-01, 03:44 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by MariettaRC - 2013-10-01, 06:54 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Hypermug - 2013-10-01, 09:48 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by SunYanZi - 2013-10-01, 09:54 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Polantaris - 2013-10-01, 01:46 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-01, 01:58 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by 66alex66 - 2013-10-01, 03:01 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by KhainiWest - 2013-10-01, 03:03 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Flonne - 2013-10-01, 03:59 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-02, 01:02 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Chew - 2013-10-02, 01:04 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by ChaoticCJ - 2013-10-02, 01:53 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-02, 02:01 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Flonne - 2013-10-02, 02:04 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-02, 02:56 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Eshnolat - 2013-10-02, 10:25 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by ExtremeMonotreme - 2013-10-02, 10:43 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Flonne - 2013-10-02, 10:45 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by icephoenix21 - 2013-10-02, 12:11 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Tigeon - 2013-10-02, 12:16 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Moonlapse - 2013-10-02, 05:17 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by SunYanZi - 2013-10-03, 08:44 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Flonne - 2013-10-04, 03:37 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-04, 03:42 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Flonne - 2013-10-04, 04:04 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-04, 05:26 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by ImagineAll - 2013-10-04, 09:12 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by KhainiWest - 2013-10-04, 09:29 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Flonne - 2013-10-04, 09:53 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-04, 10:52 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Hypermug - 2013-10-04, 11:16 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Flonne - 2013-10-05, 12:07 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Sardines - 2013-10-05, 12:19 AM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Arcanine - 2013-10-10, 07:14 PM
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U.S. Government Shutdown - by Ryukiroku - 2013-10-11, 08:45 AM
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U.S. Government Shutdown - by Moonlapse - 2013-10-11, 01:10 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by KhainiWest - 2013-10-11, 02:04 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Foolyz - 2013-10-11, 02:11 PM
U.S. Government Shutdown - by Moonlapse - 2013-10-11, 09:19 PM
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