Ice Splitter Uses Over Octopus

I'm doing an 11 Ice -> Max Octo -> 26 Ice build. I really have not found Ice to be incredibly useful for early 3rd job training, especially not at Windraiders and Squids. Blank Shot does basically the same thing until Ice is at a higher level, and Glaze capsules are a bit expensive at the moment, so my Ice is doing like 400 damage at level 78. Black Squids aren't even really worth stunning, anyway, I just shoot at them and tank the 1 damage shots. The only thing I really want Ice for is the occasional Goby house. Not having a mob skill sucks when fighting Gobies.

Octopus adds very little damage until you have it at a higher level. With my build, you get 11 Octopus at level 85, which is about when Newties become a decent training spot.

gobys training - ice
newties - oct
i got 11 oct and now im getting ice to 25 (6 monster)

What sane Outlaw trains at Gobies? Our mob skills do crappy damage, with the exception of Flamethrower, and Gobies are res to fire.