2013-06-03, 06:15 AM
Curtiss Wrote:That's awfully harsh, I can see why the Turks are protesting thanks to the translation you've protested. And no news coverage even? It's awful and I hope Erdogan gets overthrown for disrespecting the founder's wishes and twisting religion to make a nation he wants instead of listening to the people.
Well, to be fair, Erdogan was elected democratically.
Also, Ataturk was the founder of modern Turkey. The area has had a long and illustrious history, from ancient Byzantium to the Muslim Ottoman Empire that lasted over 600 years and ruled much of the Middle East, North Africa, and South-Eastern Europe, until it picked the wrong side in WWI.
Wikipedia Wrote:Atatürk was a military officer during World War I.[1] Following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, he led the Turkish national movement in the Turkish War of Independence. Having established a provisional government in Ankara, he defeated the forces sent by the Allies. His military campaigns led to victory in the Turkish War of Independence. Atatürk then embarked upon a program of political, economic, and cultural reforms, seeking to transform the former Ottoman Empire into a modern, secular and European nation-state. Under his leadership, thousands of new schools were built, primary education was made free and compulsory, while the burden of taxation on peasants was reduced.[2] The principles of Atatürk's reforms, upon which modern Turkey was established, are referred to as Kemalism.
Unfortunately, "modern, secular, and European" is not what all Turks want to be. Being European (EU and all) means having to cooperate with former enemies, especially the hated Greeks (that enmity is literally millenia old, dating all the way back to Alexander the Great). Not to mention that the previous government got really friendly with Israel, which is hated by Muslims everywhere. The Turks are not Arab but they still feel a greater kinship with Palestinians than with Israelis and Americans.
Many in Turkey felt that the Ataturk reforms were selling their culture (for example, he changed Turkish writing to use the Latin alphabet) and religion for the political and economic perks of being "First World". They want to go back to the Old Ways. They voted Erdogan in.
Now, I don't know enough about the internal politics in Turkey. I don't know how open he was, before the elections, about how far he would go. I don't know what kind of majority or plurality he got. I certainly think his policies will hurt Turkey and its citizens, and cause trouble in the area. But we do need to remember that there are many people in Turkey who do support him.

