2013-03-21, 12:53 PM
Raul Wrote:You're talking about shutting down mids and I just look at bottlecrow and laugh. Shutting down mids doesn't happen without smokeganks these days. That's why Magnus is a viable mid.No, Magnus isn't a viable mid because of bottle crowing, skewer and shockwave are the main reasons, bottle crowing helps him and heroes like night stalker out. But if he didn't have an escape in skewer and good base surviveability, he'd have no position in mid at all, silencer doesn't have any terms of escape and is far too easy to kill. He is incredibly bad mid against top tier teams. And no, ODs problem isn't that he does virtually nothing against magic immune units, ODs problem is that he needs his laning phase to go flawlessly because he can't spend time past the early game sitting around farming, because, he has no flash farming abilities. An OD should get mek drums and his choice of boots and start participating in fights, but the problem with him is again, put him solo mid and he's shut down and put him in a safe lane and enemies will aggressive tri against him shutting him down and he contributes pineapple-all to a trilane himself outside of low chance to give allies mana, and prison is a poor man's disruption until level 5. Really, ODs ineffectivity against Magic immunity isn't his problem, or rather, it's not the reason why he's such a rare situational pick, he's an amazing pick if you can ensure his laning phase is flawless with super quick midas(Which should only be done if you're certain you wont possibly be able to have an impact with real items in the next 10+ minutes, that or absolute free-farm.
OD's problem is that he does virtually nothing against magic immune heroes. If you pick him and Lifestealer or Jugg he doesn't do pomegranate and he doesn't do pomegranate if Gyro or Sven gets a BKB. And there were pros that were calling Silencer an instant first pick/ban. Like Puppey I'm pretty sure.
Yes and puppey was whining like a madman about sven too. Puppey is a good drafter, but he's incredibly fast to call OP on something, i believe he also talked about roof becoming top tier pick and ban with the rework? Puppey also called wisp OP and impossible to ever balance due to how he worked, then wisp recieved buffs and he's still relatively untouched by the chinese, why? Weak laning.