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2 battle ship > 20 Burst Fire?
#1
So I'm finally level 119 and I only got 1 more level till I become a captain, and I know the MAJORITY of captains at 120 go 1 elemental amp 1 battleship 1 air strike. However I want to use cannon asap + I want 4 hit cannon at 123, So I want to go 1 battleship 2 battleship cannon at 120, is this a viable 4th job build?
120 - 1 battleship, 2 battleship cannon
121 - 1 battleship, 5 battleship cannon
122 - 1 battleship, 8 battleship cannon
123 - 1 battleship, 11 battleship cannon
124 - 1 battleship, 11 battleship cannon, 1 elemental amp, 1 airstrike, 1 rapid fire
124 - 1 battleship, 14 battleship cannon, 1 elemental amp, 1 airstrike, 1 rapid fire
and so forth until I max battleship cannon? Also I want 1 in rapid fire at 124 just for giggles Heart

Also I know I'm going to be doing newties for a few more levels and theres no point in going 1 battleship 2 battleship cannon at 120 if maxed burstfire outdamages 2 cannon right? So which one is stronger Lv.2 battleship cannon or maxed Burstfire?
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#2
Reflexx Wrote:So I'm finally level 119 and I only got 1 more level till I become a captain, and I know the MAJORITY of captains at 120 go 1 elemental amp 1 battleship 1 air strike. However I want to use cannon asap + I want 4 hit cannon at 123, So I want to go 1 battleship 2 battleship cannon at 120, is this a viable 4th job build?
120 - 1 battleship, 2 battleship cannon
121 - 1 battleship, 5 battleship cannon
122 - 1 battleship, 8 battleship cannon
123 - 1 battleship, 11 battleship cannon
124 - 1 battleship, 11 battleship cannon, 1 elemental amp, 1 airstrike, 1 rapid fire
124 - 1 battleship, 14 battleship cannon, 1 elemental amp, 1 airstrike, 1 rapid fire
and so forth until I max battleship cannon? Also I want 1 in rapid fire at 124 just for giggles Heart

Also I know I'm going to be doing newties for a few more levels and theres no point in going 1 battleship 2 battleship cannon at 120 if maxed burstfire outdamages 2 cannon right? So which one is stronger Lv.2 battleship cannon or maxed Burstfire?

From what I understand, even level 1 cannon does more damage (it's faster). The problem is that your ship has little HP. But if you're just going to be sniping, you probably won't really get hit much anyway.

I'd really like someone else to confirm this, I'm kind of interested as well. I plan on doing something similar when I reach captain.
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#3
I would recommend against it. I thought about that too, but I opted for the extra second of freeze granted by Boost and 1 Torpedo. 1 Torpedo, if you hit at least 3 monsters (which you can and should do at the bottom right corner of Newties), it's much stronger than any other skill you have until you get Cannon to 11. While you're at it, you can pick up a point of Air Strike too.
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#4
KaidaTan Wrote:I would recommend against it. I thought about that too, but I opted for the extra second of freeze granted by Boost and 1 Torpedo. 1 Torpedo, if you hit at least 3 monsters (which you can and should do at the bottom right corner of Newties), it's much stronger than any other skill you have until you get Cannon to 11. While you're at it, you can pick up a point of Air Strike too.

wow that sounds very interesting too. It doesnt have to be battleship cannon. Basically I just want to use a skill that requires battleship at 120 because I worked so hard to get 4th job. So if torpedo is a good skill to get at 120 then I'll probably get that. So your saying, at 120 I should get 1 battleship, 1 torpedo, and 1 elemental amp? And I can use the bottom right platform and use torpedo to attack the 2 newties? Is this actually faster than just using maxed burstfire? Also whats the stats/info on lvl 1 Torpedo, like how much monsters it can hit and how much damage it does. Also If I go with this build that your proposing, how would I use my points after 120? Would I keep putting points into torpedo? cuz i'd rather get cannon maxed first so i can do some bossing. I might just go 1 battleship 2 cannon still depending on how much stronger lv.2 cannon is compared to maxed burstfire. Can someone confirm that Lv.2 cannon > maxed burstfire? and if so by how much? And yes I will be sniping newties/freeze,shooting, so ship endurance isnt really a problem.
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#5
I'm no super Corsair expert, but I think even lv1 Cannon>Maxed Burst Fire because of the speed difference. An Outlaw friend of mine also did the math and it turned out that Cannon was better too. But I don't know the details with this kind of stuff.
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#6
Is cannon really that fast? I never noticed cannon for its speed. If its faster than Burst fire, is it equal to the speed of double fire? :f6: Anyway still waiting on someone to confirm that Lv.2 cannon > maxed burstfire Redface
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#7
Well, for the first few levels, you are going to find out a way for not making your Battleship break every 2 minutes, because of the low HP.

If you are planning on sniping Jr.Newties, then I guess it's a good idea.

And to give you an idea on how fast Cannon is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsMnN_OY-0s
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#8
Yeah ill be sniping newties still so battleship durability isnt an issue, I just want someone to confirm that Lv.2 Cannon is indeed stronger than maxed burstfire. Looking for people like Dusk, Bribery, Kaidatan, or some high level corsair to confirm. Also 84% Smile going to hit captain tomorrow!
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#9
Even lv 1 cannon is faster and better than triple fire.
But,seriously,battleship isn't a priority,just go 3 cannon,put 1 torpedo at lv 120,and if you want some skill test,just put it into any level.
But no battleship,90 DEF will not change ANYTHING to you,you'll just waste 9 SP.
You get health at every level up,not at ever battleship level.
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#10
What? im confused now, you dont need lv.1 battleship to board battleship? Also is there a guide somewhere on how to advance to 4th job, cuz I play KMS and I suck at reading korean.
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#11
Well,you need ONE point at BS.
Putting points on it,will raise it's cooldown,and will give you 10 DEF per level.
You want a 90 sec cooldown with 10 DEF,or a 5 min one with 100 DEF? ._.
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#12
yeah thats what I'm saying, I am just asking what I should do with the 3 points I get at 120. Which I'm planning for 1 BS 2 Cannon. Also can someone explain to me how to advance to 4th job? there seems to be no guides explaining this
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#13
4th job advancement is pretty easy.
Go to El nath once you reach lv 120,talk to the 3rd job instructor.
Come back to leafre,talk to your 4th job instructor,then,or pay 10m into a scroll though the npc in eos tower 44th floor,or hunt manon + griffey to get two quest items,once you get those,you're done!
Note:you need to give those to chief tatamo.
Imma post also what you need to do to get your skills.
Air Strike,start the quest with that Old Bird in nautilus,he'll ask you some questions(Pretty random at all,mine was 10+15=?)
Then,to find the correct reactor,look at the eyebrows from the NPC clones,there'll be a different one.
Third part,just do like GPQ Gateway stage,keep taking screenshots each time you see a statue flashing,then open those,you'll never make it wrong like this.
Mind Control:Start with that girl in green clothes,at the gun training room,do a JQ,then protect the pink book for some minutes until you get a blue message in your chatbox.
Torpedo&Cannon:Talk to Kairin,defeat vikings and majestic vikings until you get the quest items.
OKay,just do like this,and you'll have all your skills,pretty simple.
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#14
Put 1 BS,1 Cannon and 1 Torpedo,it'll be a lot useful,you'll control mobs with it.
It's a lot strong in lv 1,390% damage for a lv 1 skill is pretty much.
I got Elemental Amplify at 121,torpedo was a lot more useful than it.
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#15
Wow thanks alot aslem, u just saved me about an hour tomorrow. Also I will probably do what you said 1 BS 1 canon 1 torpedo! thanks! see yeah tomorrow when I do my skill quests Smile
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#16
aslemn Wrote:Well,you need ONE point at BS.
Putting points on it,will raise it's cooldown,and will give you 10 DEF per level.
You want a 90 sec cooldown with 10 DEF,or a 5 min one with 100 DEF? ._.

Wasn't cooldown changed to where adding points doesn't change the cooldown?

Then again it might be different in KMS.
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#17
No,the change in KMST was this.
The cooldown was ever 5 minutes,but at lv 1,it's 90 secs now.
But oh well,even if it doesn't change the cooldown,90 DEF isn't worth for 9 4th job SP.
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#18
The cooldown is 90 seconds for all lvls of battleship, and your ship's hp increases by 4k for each point you have in it. So lvl 1 ship gives your ship 4k hp, and lvl 10 ship gives your ship 40k hp.

And at lv120 your ship's hp is quite low, so you probably won't be using it much, even if you have 2 cannon. If you want to put 1 sp in each skill, you won't be losing out on much. But if you want to go straight to cannon, then yes you can do that. But during your 12x you will be spending a lot of time off the ship as well, so it might not be as fun as raising multiple skills. Then again it's only a few lvls were talking about here, so you can just do w/e you want lol.
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#19
Reflexx Wrote:So your saying, at 120 I should get 1 battleship, 1 torpedo, and 1 elemental amp?
Yep. I advanced at 121, but that's what I would have done if I advanced at 120.

Reflexx Wrote:And I can use the bottom right platform and use torpedo to attack the 2 newties? Is this actually faster than just using maxed burstfire? Also whats the stats/info on lvl 1 Torpedo, like how much monsters it can hit and how much damage it does.
You stand on the very bottom right and if you stand close enough to the rightmost Newtie, you can hit 3 of them. It's definitely stronger than Cannon until Cannon hits level 11. It hits up to 4 monsters.

Reflexx Wrote:Also If I go with this build that your proposing, how would I use my points after 120? Would I keep putting points into torpedo? cuz i'd rather get cannon maxed first so i can do some bossing. I might just go 1 battleship 2 cannon still depending on how much stronger lv.2 cannon is compared to maxed burstfire.
Nah, just one point into Torpedo is fine. You put your points into Cannon, but you use Torpedo until Cannon hits 11. After Cannon hits 11, feel free to put fun points in Rapid Fire, Air Strike, and Wrath of the Octopi.

Reflexx Wrote:Can someone confirm that Lv.2 cannon > maxed burstfire? and if so by how much? And yes I will be sniping newties/freeze,shooting, so ship endurance isnt really a problem.
As the others said, any level Cannon is better than Burst Fire because of how much faster it is. Burst Fire is 720ms while Cannon is 630ms. Not by very much at all, but by enough. Also it's fun to use a new skill.
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#20
I think it's faster by like 10~ hits per minute? Then at two it's better by like 5 or 15%.

I'd put a point into EB, but skip AS, and Octo. I regretted getting those early when I really didn't need to. At 11 cannon, consider putting points into Battleship if it's breaking all the time. I wish I had that extra 40k back at 13X, but maybe I wasn't doing it right.

I did not think torpedo was as useful as Cannon. It took like 6 hits at level 1. It's already a very slow skill and you're just wasting time when Cannon is a much 4 hits each.
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