2012-09-29, 11:55 AM
EDIT: oops double post.
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About BillingPP Bans
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2012-09-29, 12:15 PM
inSAMMIty Wrote:I got it too. I found threads on Maple forums and Hime only said "email them". Yeah, usually they respond pretty quickly to emails. However, when so many people get banned at once, I expect very slow responses. Unless, of course, Nexon realizes there's a glitch, and just unbans everyone caught by it at once.
2012-09-29, 12:57 PM
Quite a few people I know got billing banned as well, one of them in particular was an interesting case.
A cool dark knight buddy of mine who you may or may know was permanently banned, got unbanned because he was innocent, and got billing banned within the next couple days when they did all of these! Anyway, all you can really do is do what it says. That being e-mail them. They respond pretty quickly.
2012-09-29, 01:55 PM
This probably had something to do with it, I had a few calls yesterday regarding our EFT(Electronic funds transfer) being cancelled by banks because of this hack. Although this doesn't explain players who paid in cash;
http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/story/...oPFLw.cspx
2012-09-29, 02:18 PM
I was under the impression they responded slowly concerning billingpp's. Guess not?
Proxied Wrote:A cool dark knight buddy of mine who you may or may know was permanently banned, got unbanned because he was innocent, and got billing banned within the next couple days when they did all of these! Wow that sucks. Are you talking about Sean? He's the only active drk I know. If so, LOL I can now give him pomegranate for this.
2012-09-29, 02:24 PM
Mandalay Wrote:I was under the impression they responded slowly concerning billingpp's. Guess not? wait, which sean? unless it counts as an accusation mentioning him? brb reading kw post
2012-09-29, 02:55 PM
Mandalay Wrote:I was under the impression they responded slowly concerning billingpp's. Guess not? Liban Sean was hellbanned though
2012-09-29, 09:43 PM
ShinkuDragon Wrote:wait, which sean? unless it counts as an accusation mentioning him? ImCensored Proxied Wrote:Liban Oh. Liban. I haven't talked to him in God knows when. LOL. Poor Sean though.
2012-09-29, 09:55 PM
Mandalay Wrote:ImCensored same one i was thinking then, heh. don't know liban.
2012-10-01, 07:37 PM
Well, I finally got a response to my e-mail about this:
Quote:From: billingpp@nexon.netThis really does sounds like a crappy excuse of them. I never heard of any unauthorized access on my account nor is there anything illegal about. No credit card or anything of that sort of information attached to it. I have a full 15 characters on my account and it was pretty annoying having to remember all of them, and especially after 2-3 days of being unable to log in with it. I have responded back with all the correct information so we'll see what they'll do next and hopefully it won't take too long... What a load of frustration, confusion, and crap... -.-
2012-10-01, 07:52 PM
"unauthorized access"?
So, they believe someone hacked / tried to hack your account, and this is how they protect it? Could these bans have to do with using hotspot or any other IP altering/hiding tool? Are these mass bannings the first sign of Nexon trying to implement some kind of IP-tracking account protection? People who got banned, did your IP address change recently? (Some ISPs issue a modem a new address pretty much at every reconnect)
2012-10-01, 08:11 PM
My ISP did issue a modem which connects the internet and telephones together. It is also connected/linked to a router. In a sense, this is my own hot spot that is firewalled and is secured from anyone unknown from trying to access it. There hasn't been any IP conflicts or warnings from it.
Not completely sure how it works, but IP addresses would be more or less of the same right? Little tidbits of it can be changed, yet can still be identifiable. IP address assigned from ISPs can change, and ones from computers and routers are automatically changed when reset or restarted. I'm still not sure sure how that would affect people as there is nothing about money or billing involved or at least no information and data is being exchanged, at least to Nexon as far as I know it.
2012-10-01, 08:19 PM
Locked Wrote:No it isn't. "There isn't a billingpp ban glitch. While we can't explain every scenario here why an account would be prevented from logging in and asked to email billingpp, the most common situations are: 1. Unauthorized access to your account. That means somebody from a foreign IP logged into your account. 2. Fraudulent activities. 3. Game abuse i.e. exploitation, hacking, meso buying/selling, etc. Again, this does not explain all scenarios of being blocked from the website. And while what was mentioned above can be a result of a compromised account, you must email billingpp and comply with their requests so we can get the situation squared away. I am now closing this thread as I remind you again, you must resolve this through billingpp. Thank you. -Hime" http://maplestory.nexon.net/Community/#%...26nxid%3D6
2012-10-01, 08:20 PM
My friend got the same email apparently...
..also http://maplestory.nexon.net/Community/#%...26nxid%3D6 Hime Wrote:There isn't a billingpp ban glitch. While we can't explain every scenario here why an account would be prevented from logging in and asked to email billingpp, the most common situations are:
2012-10-01, 08:26 PM
Flirtini Wrote: meso buying and selling != buying NX with mesos.
2012-10-01, 08:28 PM
Flirtini Wrote: btw...... i believe i know what is going on... i think that anyone who share their acc info with diff ip outside of the US get this bbp ban nexon is trying to protect us by using this way we cant get hack but this is really annoying
2012-10-01, 08:28 PM
Kubi Wrote:Well, I finally got a response to my e-mail about this: I got hit with this on a mule today. So you sent only one e-mail and waited two or three days for a response? I shouldn't be sending daily e-mails, should I? In my case, I don't think I would be able to remember all the characters on the account, I might not even be able to remember the birth date or first and last names on the account. Uh oh. It was a mule made in haste, but there is probably 5B or so on it. -Sigh- This was exclusively a FM Buy/Sell with mesos mule, no intention of even buying or selling NX with mesos, selling mesos for cash or any permutation of NX, cash or mesos, buying or selling. What might have created red flags might have been large meso transfers or what might appeared to be NX buying because I gifted myself Hired Merchants and Shop Permits. I don't know, thoroughly frustrating especially when I need the mesos on that account right now to buy something. No IP changes either, same rig, no modem reset.
2012-10-01, 08:45 PM
Locked Wrote:meso buying and selling != buying NX with mesos. Falls under the "Game abuse etc" since selling NX is not allowed thru ToS. People who do buy NX in game shouldn't complain if they get billingpp, since they will be lumped together with the sellers. I don't care if you don't want to buy NX with real money, it's your choice to take the risk. Saying everyone else does it doesn't mean a dammed thing.
2012-10-01, 08:58 PM
Flirtini Wrote:Falls under the "Game abuse etc" since selling NX is not allowed thru ToS. People who do buy NX in game shouldn't complain if they get billingpp, since they will be lumped together with the sellers. I don't care if you don't want to buy NX with real money, it's your choice to take the risk. Saying everyone else does it doesn't mean a dammed thing. >implying I give a damn. I haven't played this game in months. Nexon has never banned anyone via billingpp for buying NX through mesos. Unless you can magically find me one person who has done so then you can tell me about it. Otherwise I just don't care. Also I've been banned for buying NX before. 4 times actually all for illegal charging, 3 days, 3 days, 1 week, 1 month were the durations. I never got billingpp'd and I'm still on rankings.
2012-10-01, 09:07 PM
Question Wrote:btw...... i believe i know what is going on...I don't really know anyone personally outside of the US that plays any of Nexon's games, much less give out my account information to anyone whether I knew them or not. I don't go into odd looking sites either or enter my information on different computers, so nothing is key-logged or virus infected. All the passwords I use are also all different from each other. So other than that, I really don't know how else someone would be able to get a hold of my account and be able to log in with it. I also don't buy or sell NX in the game. If there was something I wanted from the CS, I'd rather have and ask them to gift me it and buy it that way, from trusted friends of course. Though I rarely do that too. I've already replied back with all the correct information that they have asked of me for it to be unblocked. While I do appreciate Nexon trying to protect us this way, unless they provide me with some proof such as which foreign IPs they've caught in trying to log into the account or something reasonable to believe, I would just be dismissing this as an excuse for something else. If they reply back to my e-mail with that sort of thing, and not just another automated message or excuse, then my I'll admit I'm wrong about that aspect. You really can't blame me for doubting Nexon on the things they do or actions they take regarding issues like this. |
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