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math help with dex-requiring equips.
#1
ok guys, as you may know, i've been getting agares equips all around, now i've reached the biggest problem, which is equipping them all, i need help figuring out how much extra dex i would need to be able to equip them, their dex requirement in parenthesis, and +dex below:

cape, (0)
+3

glove (140)
+9

Shoe (140)
+9

overall (160)
+14

Helmet (160)
+18

Weapon (160)
+4

now, outside sources of dex amount to a total of +114 dex (not counting 4 dex base) and i have a czak worth 47 dex, and a top+bottom combo worth 31 dex.

so far i can equip all but the helmet, with 5 pieces and the CZAK helmet, i have a total of 214 dex, how much extra dex would i need to be able to unequip the helmet, and still keep the other 5 pieces on? (if i unequip the helm, the weapon+overall red out)

also, taking into account how much the helmet gives, and the bonus +15 all stat from the full set, what number would i be able to lower my dex to, in order to have everything equipped?
#2
Hard to know what else you are wearing.
Can you craft/scroll high-dex accessories, or use dex potions, to get that helm on?
Once it's on will they all stay on if you remove the ring or w/e?
#3
SaptaZapta Wrote:Hard to know what else you are wearing.
Can you craft/scroll high-dex accessories, or use dex potions, to get that helm on?
Once it's on will they all stay on if you remove the ring or w/e?

i'm only interested in knowing how much dex i would require in my non-agares slots (rings, earrings, face, etc) to be able to take the helmet off and everything else to stay equipped, so i'm pretty much looking for the exact number, if anyone knows how to calculate it

what do you mean about ring or W/E btw?
#4
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i'm only interested in knowing how much dex i would require in my non-agares slots (rings, earrings, face, etc) to be able to take the helmet off and everything else to stay equipped, so i'm pretty much looking for the exact number, if anyone knows how to calculate it

what do you mean about ring or W/E btw?

Ring as an example of a high-dex accessory you can equip for as long as it takes to put your helmet on, then replace with another.
#5
SaptaZapta Wrote:Ring as an example of a high-dex accessory you can equip for as long as it takes to put your helmet on, then replace with another.

that's also one of the questions i'm asking, however it's not as important as the first one, since i can simply keep the ring equipped during PVP to prevent everything from falling off
#6
level a cannon shooter to 70 when they come out, the +15 all stat might help you out so far as stats go.
#7
MuscleWizard Wrote:level a cannon shooter to 70 when they come out, the +15 all stat might help you out so far as stats go.

i'm sure it will, same with the rising sun set which i'm aiming to collect, however i want to be motivated to PVP, and equipping the whole set NOW does that for me, you know instant compensation or whatever it's called lol.
#8
Instant gratification.

Do potions count towards stat requirements?
I know you can't use potions during PvP, but you can use them to test out the requirement.
Obviously it's no more than 20, or all your gear would go red, not just the weapon and overall.
I can't calculate exactly how much because clearly you have some kind of dex% or allstat% that makes 47 dex worth more than 54.
Anyway, recipes for dexterity potions of up to 18 dex can be purchased from NPC, so it's easy enough to binary search. Assuming potions count towards requirements.
#9
SaptaZapta Wrote:Do potions count towards stat requirements?

Yep, they do. Can post screenshots if anyone needs em.
#10
11 I think. Since you have 214 with czak, then taking off czak also unequips overall + weapon. 214 - 47 - 14 - 4 = 149.
#11
Since you want to equip NEW, Hat, Overall, Shoes, Gloves, Weapon, Cape <- 6 items, unequip what you currently have that are of those listed, and equip what you can (cape, gloves, shoes, etc) Then look at your stats window and see how much dex you have and compare that to the 160 requirement.

Temp fix would be extra pendant slot, and cs pendant...
#12
Cause the helm goes on last and provides the +15 all bonus, you might need 193 dex with it equipped.

But - you need 174 without either helmet on, in order to keep the overall on. So you're actually 7 dex short on your other equips.

It might be possible to drop down to 178 total once you have everything on, but that would require swapping out dex earrings/pendant most likely, it can't involve any of the equip slots within the set.
#13
you need 178 dex with everything equipped for it to remain equipped

to equip the helm:

214 - 47 = 167

at that point the overall unequips because it needs 174 dex to remain equipped. the weapon unequips because the overall unequips. you need 7 more dex without your helm to equip everything. scroll an earring. you can use your regular earring once you have the hat on.
#14
SaptaZapta Wrote:Instant gratification.

Do potions count towards stat requirements?
I know you can't use potions during PvP, but you can use them to test out the requirement.
Obviously it's no more than 20, or all your gear would go red, not just the weapon and overall.
I can't calculate exactly how much because clearly you have some kind of dex% or allstat% that makes 47 dex worth more than 54.
Anyway, recipes for dexterity potions of up to 18 dex can be purchased from NPC, so it's easy enough to binary search. Assuming potions count towards requirements.

i don't, i made sure i had no % gears, i'm working ONLY with +X stats, and none is from potential (except a +5 dex from my top, but that's why i left it out of the math, and decided to go with the czak instead)

@above: thanks a lot, so i need to gain 7 more dex is what you're telling me, that's perfect.

reason why i asked for the substraction is because i plan to switch to the rising sun set, but it's a dex downgrade in some areas (belt and HTP).

i'll go get that 7 dex and report how it goes.

EDIT: can you elaborate on this part?

"at that point the overall unequips because it needs 174 dex to remain equipped."
#15
ok, as you said, with exactly +7 more dex, i was able to equip it (bought a +8 pot earring, and used a scroll on it for +10, and it replaced my +3 rex)

and the minimum dex i can reach after having everything is 178, if i get under that, everything falls apart, and i mean EVERYTHING.

thank you very much for the help.


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