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What to do after 145?
#1
Well, I've been training a LOT lately and I'm probably going to be 145 within the next week and a half, but I don't know what to put points into. I already have max Dragon Strike and by level 145, I will have max Rapid Fists with 2 points left over. I'm thinking about getting 9 Maple Hero, then Getting S. Transform to 10 and then working on Demolition/Snatch at a 2 and 1 pace. What are some of your SP builds for fourth job after maxing Dragon Strike and Rapid Fists? I'm not a big fan of S. Transform, but I'm also confused as to whether or not I'll be even able to boss any time soon, since we're trying to get into HT runs and stuff. Any suggestions? Eek
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#2
I suggest just getting 2:1 ST and demo. Leveling up one of the two means the other one suffers, which isn't as good as leveling both of them at the same time.

Edit: Y U HEK!?
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Takebacker Wrote:I suggest just getting 2:1 ST and demo. Leveling up one of the two means the other one suffers, which isn't as good as leveling both of them at the same time.

Edit: Y U HEK!?

Yes, but if the Skill Updates may come soon to JMS, I won't be really using Demo much even while transformed. The only time I see it being useful is when I go to Zakum/HT, but I still am not able to go there very much. ;x
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#4
Deng you're almost higher level than Brawlas Rolleyes. I'll pass you on corsair though!!!

Anywayy bout ur question. I would start pumping into demolition. I actually would have started pumping into demolition after barrage was around lvl 15ish. I have maxed barrage right now, and i'm stuck with about 5 levels of no increase in anything since my barrage will outdmg demolition for a while. If I would have left barrage at about lvl 15 (for 24/7 damage), and started maxing out demolition next, I would be constantly increasing my DPS with each level, rather than having 5 levels of blahhhhh.
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#5
How about snatch? I have a feeling demo has become quite abit of useless even at bosses, since we always dance (well at least thats for me)to be invincible and i feel that max barrage + max ds combo while dancing outdamage demo periodically, although the time taken for the combo is slower by abit. Why not start on snatch so that when the kms update comes, we could snatch and ds for better damage?

Feasible?
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xgngx Wrote:How about snatch? I have a feeling demo has become quite abit of useless even at bosses, since we always dance (well at least thats for me)to be invincible and i feel that max barrage + max ds combo while dancing outdamage demo periodically, although the time taken for the combo is slower by abit. Why not start on snatch so that when the kms update comes, we could snatch and ds for better damage?

Feasible?

It's an interesting idea. Hmm... Should I get 9 Maple Hero after I max Rapid Fists and before I start on another skill, or should I wait?
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#7
xgngx Wrote:How about snatch? I have a feeling demo has become quite abit of useless even at bosses, since we always dance (well at least thats for me)to be invincible and i feel that max barrage + max ds combo while dancing outdamage demo periodically, although the time taken for the combo is slower by abit. Why not start on snatch so that when the kms update comes, we could snatch and ds for better damage?

Feasible?

One problem: You can only use Snatch in Super Transform, and it's kind of useless having a Snatch with hardly any Demoltion.

I could be wrong.
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ClawofBeta Wrote:One problem: You can only use Snatch in Super Transform, and it's kind of useless having a Snatch with hardly any Demoltion.

I could be wrong.

With the new skill updates in KMS, you can now use every skill while Transformed and Super Transform with the exception of Oak Barrel and Double Fire (of course, you can't use Snatch and Demolition while using the 3rd job Transform).
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#9
You maxed shockwave anyway right? Snatch could then be feasable because you still have an (albeit pomegranatety) mob skill. Not that there are a lot of mobby spots in JMS anyway. Demo = neo tokyo time? Shine

I say just work on both demo/ST though.
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#10
With SE, we might be able to snatch+ds and 1 hitko all 6 skeles, maybe? Excellent
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xgngx Wrote:With SE, we might be able to snatch+ds and 1 hitko all 6 skeles, maybe? Excellent

People prefer using CSB/DS/BSB or CSB/DS to remain invincible instead of the added damage potential that snatch gives you.
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Takebacker Wrote:People prefer using CSB/DS/BSB or CSB/DS to remain invincible instead of the added damage potential that snatch gives you.

Yeah, cos i was thinking if strong enough, just stand at a spot, snatch 6 mobs to u and ds them and they die instantly (with SE probably).
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#13
xgngx Wrote:Yeah, cos i was thinking if strong enough, just stand at a spot, snatch 6 mobs to u and ds them and they die instantly (with SE probably).

It may be a good combo at maps like the Skelegon Minidungeon, Guardian Soldiers/Captains of Oblivion, etc with the Dragon Strike and Shockwave combo that the KMS Viper pulls off in this video :
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video....id=2955770
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#14
Personally, what I'm going to do at that point is start working on Demolition. I don't HT or Zakum much at all, but I know it would be good for Anego solos (exp), and for Pap & Pianus (drops). It pretty much beats everything else. I'd probably put 1 sp into snatch just for mobbing and stunning purposes since the range stays the same at all levels, and the damage isn't too significant. Either way, I'd work on MH before putting points into Snatch, though after putting more points into Demo/ST.
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Takebacker Wrote:I suggest just getting 2:1 ST and demo. Leveling up one of the two means the other one suffers, which isn't as good as leveling both of them at the same time.

Edit: Y U HEK!?
Having less than ~20 Demo is pointless though, so you're best off getting the first 20 points in it in one block.

Think about it; why have 20 ST and 10 Demo that you're not going to use, when you can have 30 ST (more periodic Haste? -shrug-) or 10 ST and 20 Demo that you are going to use?
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#16
Russt Wrote:Having less than ~20 Demo is pointless though, so you're best off getting the first 20 points in it in one block.

Think about it; why have 20 ST and 10 Demo that you're not going to use, when you can have 30 ST (more periodic Haste? -shrug-) or 10 ST and 20 Demo that you are going to use?

Eh? ST maxes at 20. :f6:
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