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A metaphor to mull over - whybanme - 2008-12-26 This was a blog posted by my friend from school on his myspace. I really wanted to share it so here it is: Quote: I've been pondering over the state of things recently, and during this time of contemplation, the following metaphor popped into my mind. As always, when I get a thought worth speaking aloud, I like to share it with all of you. So, without further ado Comments? A metaphor to mull over - Gstatue - 2008-12-26 Quick comment. The revolutionary thinkers can prove this, and did prove it. They had the means to attempt and succeed. God, on the other hand, can't be proven. If I missed the entire point of this metaphor...damn. Whoops? A metaphor to mull over - MasPan - 2008-12-26 whybanme Wrote:This was a blog posted by my friend from school on his myspace. I really wanted to share it so here it is: Sound insight, but dangerous when applied to religion A metaphor to mull over - Providence - 2008-12-26 MasPan Wrote:Sound insight, but dangerous when applied to religionI don't see how "dangerous" it is to religion. If anything, it proves that whatever a faithful person believes in can't be disproven to them. A metaphor to mull over - MasPan - 2008-12-26 Providence Wrote:I don't see how "dangerous" it is to religion. If anything, it proves that whatever a faithful person believes in can't be disproven to them. What I meant is that a devoutly religious person could use this argument to justify pushing their views on someone, claiming that they know their views to be "fact," not that it is dangerous TO religion, but dangerous when mixed WITH religion. A metaphor to mull over - Hazzy - 2008-12-26 MasPan Wrote:What I meant is that a devoutly religious person could use this argument to justify pushing their views on someone, claiming that they know their views to be "fact," not that it is dangerous TO religion, but dangerous when mixed WITH religion. But the 'revolutionaries' were using facts to back themselves up, while faith/religion is, by definition, the belief in something without basing it on facts. :f6: "belief that is not based on proof" ~Dictionary.com A metaphor to mull over - MasPan - 2008-12-26 Hazzy Wrote:But the 'revolutionaries' were using facts to back themselves up, while faith/religion is, by definition, the belief in something without basing it on facts. :f6: To a devout Christian, the Bible is irrefutable proof. To a devout Muslim, the Qur'an. Etc. In the same way, the revolutionaries came accross new evidence to support a new idea, leaving those without that evidence to have this new idea pressured onto them. Devout religious followers tend to have the mindset of "I have irrefutable proof through ___ book and the feeling of security I have from ___. Those who don't believe my proof is valid are wrong and need to be corrected." Same beliefs as the revolutionaries, just with the evidence being replaced with emotion/feeling and some old texts. A metaphor to mull over - JoeTang - 2008-12-26 Faith is belief without undeniable proof, not religion. A metaphor to mull over - Kranzorbaken - 2009-01-05 MasPan Wrote:To a devout Christian, the Bible is irrefutable proof. To a devout Muslim, the Qur'an. Etc.Its Koran i think nor Qur'an unless that's a different religion sorry didn't mean to be name nazi lol A metaphor to mull over - MasPan - 2009-01-05 Kranzorbaken Wrote:Its Koran i think nor Qur'an unless that's a different religion That's fine, I couldn't remember, and not a theology buff, so I spent a minute or two trying to figure it out...now I know...and KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE GI JOE! A metaphor to mull over - Kranzorbaken - 2009-01-05 lol its okay im in Ancient Civs and we talked about World religion class one day and we went through our library... and i forund the Koran A metaphor to mull over - Nikkey - 2009-01-05 Kranzorbaken Wrote:lol its okay im in Ancient Civs and we talked about World religion class one day and we went through our library... and i forund the Koran http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qur%27an WOW HOLY CRAP A BOOK HAS SEVERAL NAMES. The church had to keep its power. Thus supporting the nazis during WW2 and every other leading (military) power during the times. Thus the crusaders. Thus the denial of new theories. A metaphor to mull over - IsaacGS - 2009-01-05 Quote:Besides that, if you climb somewhere really high up, you can't see the land curving…it's flat.This is a false statement. The curvature of the earth *is* visible from a sufficiently high point. There are numerous mountains where you could, with rather crude tools, easily detect this. A metaphor to mull over - Rob - 2009-01-05 IsaacGS Wrote:This is a false statement. The curvature of the earth *is* visible from a sufficiently high point. There are numerous mountains where you could, with rather crude tools, easily detect this. But they where back in the 15th century, and the people arguing this theories were Europeans and the higher mountains they could access were the alpes (don't really know their English name, the mountains north of Italy), and their methods were not accurate as far as I know. Not until galileo galilei I guess. A metaphor to mull over - IsaacGS - 2009-01-05 RobMdza Wrote:But they where back in the 15th century, and the people arguing this theories were Europeans and the higher mountains they could access were the alpes (don't really know their English name, the mountains north of Italy), and their methods were not accurate as far as I know. Not until galileo galilei I guess.All you need to do is hold a stick above the horizon to see that the earth isn't as flat as the stick. A metaphor to mull over - Thunda - 2009-01-06 Quote:The church had to keep its power. Thus supporting the nazis during WW2 and every other leading (military) power during the times. Thus the crusaders. Thus the denial of new theories. This is misleading.The church of 1000 years ago certainly isn't the church now. If someone argues that because they have some of the same beliefs, they are still to blame, he would also be arguing that the British government is bad because of King John. And Nazis? Please. Does that mean the current Italian government is tainted by WWII? --- Quote:All you need to do is hold a stick above the horizon to see that the earth isn't as flat as the stick. I'm confused by this statement. Please explain further? A metaphor to mull over - Spaz - 2009-01-06 That whole story is completely bogus, despite what you may have heard about Columbus in elementary school. There was no question about the shape of the earth in that time period. A metaphor to mull over - Russt - 2009-01-06 ^ Thunda Hopefully this crudely made graphic will help: ![]() Exaggerated, maybe, but at a decent altitude it'd be noticeable. A metaphor to mull over - Nikkey - 2009-01-06 Thunda Wrote:This is misleading.The church of 1000 years ago certainly isn't the church now. If someone argues that because they have some of the same beliefs, they are still to blame, he would also be arguing that the British government is bad because of King John. And Nazis? Please. Does that mean the current Italian government is tainted by WWII? I was more thinking about petting the Nazis to be able to become the main religious group if the Nazis succeeded. If we go on and say directly support... Well, depends on sources. Most other sources are catholic papers. Which obviously won't try to give Catholicism a bad image. And for the rest, yeah, I meant for like 500 years ago. Stuff like that does obviously enough not happen today. However, it's quite funny that people most likely stated the exact same thing 500 years ago. A metaphor to mull over - IsaacGS - 2009-01-06 Russt Wrote:^ Thundayeah that's it. That's all it really takes. At about 3km up the edges will be approximately 8mm lower, which while slight is certainly noticeable. |