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*Sigh* Arizona... - Netto - 2012-03-14

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/14/arizona-birth-control-bill-contraception-medical-reasons_n_1344557.html?ref=politics

Quote:Arizona legislators have advanced an unprecedented bill that would require women who wish to have their contraception covered by their health insurance plans to prove to their employers that they are taking it to treat medical conditions. The bill also makes it easier for Arizona employers to fire a woman for using birth control to prevent pregnancy despite the employer's moral objection.

Under current law, health plans in Arizona that cover other prescription medications must also cover contraception. House Bill 2625, which the state House of Representatives passed earlier this month and the Senate Judiciary Committee endorsed on Monday, repeals that law and allows any employer to refuse to cover contraception that will be used "for contraceptive, abortifacient, abortion or sterilization purposes." If a woman wants the cost of her contraception covered, she has to "submit a claim" to her employer providing evidence of a medical condition, such as endometriosis or polycystic ovarian syndrome, that can be treated with birth control.

Moreover, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, the law would give Arizona employers the green light to fire a woman upon finding out that she took birth control for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.

"The bill goes beyond guaranteeing a person's rights to express and practice their faith," Anjali Abraham, a lobbyist for the ACLU, told the Senate panel, "and instead lets employers prioritize their beliefs over the beliefs, the interests, the needs of their employees, in this case, particularly, female employees."

The sponsor of the bill told the committee that it is intended to protect the First Amendment right to religious liberty.

"I believe we live in America," said Majority Whip Debbie Lesko (R-Glendale), who sponsored the bill. "We don’t live in the Soviet Union. So, government should not be telling the organizations or mom-and-pop employers to do something against their moral beliefs."

Lesko's bill resembles recent efforts on the federal level to repeal the Obama administration's contraception mandate, which requires most employers to cover contraception with no co-pay for their employees. Obama's rule has a broad religious exemption that allows faith-based organizations to opt out of covering birth control and shifts the burden of coverage over to the insurer in those cases. But many conservatives, including Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), are not satisfied with the exemption and believe all employers should be able to opt out of covering any kind of health service to which they morally object.

Lesko's bill is different from the controversial amendment Blunt proposed, in that it differentiates between birth control used for medical reasons and birth control used to prevent pregnancy. If the new law goes into effect, it will force female employees who can't afford to pay full price for birth control to share private, sometimes embarrassing medical information with her employer in order to get her prescription covered.

Lisa Love, a Glendale, Ariz., resident, testified before the committee about her polycystic ovarian syndrome in order to make a point about how private and personal the issue can be.

"I wouldn’t mind showing my employer my medical records," she said, "but there are ten women behind me that would be ashamed to do so."

The bill now moves to the state Senate for a full vote.

Not even sure how they function as a state now.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Eliseo - 2012-03-14

Dafuq did I just read...


This is wrong, so wrong.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Razmos - 2012-03-14

I...what...that...

It feels like i just time traveled back to a darker age.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Zenkat - 2012-03-14

I hate everything about this state other than the weather. I'm gonna have to become an activist to try and speak louder than the unlimited amount of right-wing morons this state houses.

Also, see this ridiculous waste of money/time/energy people are STILL getting their panties in a wad about:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/sheriff-arpaio-obama-birth-certificate-forged-perpetrators-must-be-brought-to-justice/


*Sigh* Arizona... - VerrKol - 2012-03-14

When religion ruled the world, it was called the Dark Ages.

This is just disgusting.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Rick - 2012-03-14

Further evidence that Republicans should not be allowed to vote.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Mute - 2012-03-14

IN COMMUNIST AMERICA, GOVERNMENT SUES YOU.
IN COMMUNIST AMERICA, PREGNANCY FXCKS YOU.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Zelkova - 2012-03-14

Zenkat Wrote:I hate everything about this state other than the weather. I'm gonna have to become an activist to try and speak louder than the unlimited amount of right-wing morons this state houses.

Also, see this ridiculous waste of money/time/energy people are STILL getting their panties in a wad about:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/sheriff-arpaio-obama-birth-certificate-forged-perpetrators-must-be-brought-to-justice/

I hate the weather too.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Exidous - 2012-03-14

The only problem with this is that they aren't repealing all of the things the state mandates employers to cover. The bill takes the state law from "employers offering health plans must cover contraception" to appending "only if the recipient proves a medical condition necessitating it"

generally, musts are bad

unless you hate freedom


*Sigh* Arizona... - Moonlapse - 2012-03-15

I wish they kept the current law, but this isn't that big of an issue to me. If there is a privacy violation it will be struck down by the supreme court.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Zenkat - 2012-03-15

Zelkova Wrote:I hate the weather too.

Then you've never lived in the midwest. Weather is tits out here compared to Michigan. I don't want to have to go back.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Kalemora - 2012-03-17

It seems like there's a reminder for me to go to an out of state college every day.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Born2BeMild - 2012-03-20

Looks like I'm never going to Arizona.


*Sigh* Arizona... - icephoenix21 - 2012-03-21

This is just..stupid.
>Pay for contraceptives...

or

>Pay for all the doctor appointments and hospital bills that come with pregnancy.

derp.


*Sigh* Arizona... - SaptaZapta - 2012-03-21

icephoenix21 Wrote:This is just..stupid.
>Pay for contraceptives...

or

>Pay for all the doctor appointments and hospital bills that come with pregnancy.

derp.

or

>Fire the employee when she gets pregnant.


*Sigh* Arizona... - icephoenix21 - 2012-03-21

SaptaZapta Wrote:or

>Fire the employee when she gets pregnant.

Or that =/ it's really unfortunate that some companies do that.


*Sigh* Arizona... - WillDaSnail - 2012-03-21

Wat is dis I dunt even

If by any extreme chance this bill passes, this bill will no doubt be struck down by federal courts because its a blatant violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.


*Sigh* Arizona... - happylight - 2012-03-21

Why should health insurance cover your birth control???? If you don't want kids, don't have sex.

You're basically asking everyone else to pay a higher premium so you can have sex for pleasure.

If you want to have sex, pay for it out of your own pocket.


*Sigh* Arizona... - Jedward - 2012-03-21

happylight Wrote:Why should health insurance cover your birth control???? If you don't want kids, don't have sex.

You're basically asking everyone else to pay a higher premium so you can have sex for pleasure.

If you want to have sex, pay for it out of your own pocket.

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Contraceptives are sometimes used for medicinal purposes. It's even in the article you should have read. The issue is, birth control shouldn't be something that you'd require permission to use. Especially as some of the medical uses of birth control pills are used to combat stuff that shouldn't really be diagnosed shouldn't have to be diagnosed to be treated right away, like heavy periods.


*Sigh* Arizona... - happylight - 2012-03-21

Infection Wrote:Contraceptives are sometimes used for medicinal purposes. It's even in the article you should have read. The issue is, birth control shouldn't be something that you'd require permission to use. Especially as some of the medical uses of birth control pills are used to combat stuff that can't really be diagnosed, like heavy periods.

Not sure why you're even pointing that out? The article already says they are still covered if used for medical purposes. The second part of your point is laughable. It's like saying I want to take Viagra for my heart condition. If you got a problem like heavy periods, talk to your doctor and have him prescribe something that is sold for the purpose of treating it.