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Another Anti-botting system.... - valhala556 - 2011-11-01
Not sure if this was mentioned before but today i figured out, what i believe to be, An anti botting system. Pretty much it prevents you from rapid CCing. But its more like you can cc X amount of times. (i think about 5) before it prevents you from ccing for like a minute or 2. A message pops up as well telling you that "you are unable to change channels at this time". Not a big deal for most people but somethings such as harvesting require this rapid CCing. Getting tired of this Anti bot/hacking systems that effect the entire player base. The only one that i deem ok is the "100attacks without moving."
Another Anti-botting system.... - Alilatias - 2011-11-01
valhala556 Wrote:The only one that i deem ok is the "100attacks without moving."
And even this never worked as intended anyways. The only class this really affected was legit Bowmasters (each Final Attack activation was counted as a seperate attack even during Hurricane), and why bot as an adventurer archer in the first place? At least it appears to have been thrown out after Jump/Ascension.
Another Anti-botting system.... - LegendGospel - 2011-11-01
Sir, that's just the server being crappy.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Raul - 2011-11-01
Alilatias Wrote:And even this never worked as intended anyways. The only class this really affected was legit Bowmasters (each Final Attack activation was counted as a seperate attack even during Hurricane), and why bot as an adventurer archer in the first place? At least it appears to have been thrown out after Jump/Ascension.
That and DB's using PB on Zakum arms.
You've got to get the spot just right.
DB's are probably the hardest class to bot with, along with Shadowers and Buccaneers.
I honestly have never seen a botter who was one of those classes.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Link - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:That and DB's using PB on Zakum arms.
You've got to get the spot just right.
DB's are probably the hardest class to bot with, along with Shadowers and Buccaneers.
I honestly have never seen a botter who was one of those classes.
You can say that about Mercedes too, but the Chinese hackers in JMS are using them.
Another Anti-botting system.... - modular - 2011-11-01
Alilatias Wrote:And even this never worked as intended anyways. The only class this really affected was legit Bowmasters (each Final Attack activation was counted as a seperate attack even during Hurricane), and why bot as an adventurer archer in the first place? At least it appears to have been thrown out after Jump/Ascension.
nah, it still happens on mechs. ~3 sieges against single targets, or ~4 when im using laser. then i have to move. sad that ive gotten used to it.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Raul - 2011-11-01
ShiKage Wrote:You can say that about Mercedes too, but the Chinese hackers in JMS are using them.
No, see, Mercedes has spammable multitarget skills that have range.
They also have AOE's to an extent, another thing that all of those classes lack.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Link - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:No, see, Mercedes has spammable multitarget skills that have range.
They also have AOE's to an extent, another thing that all of those classes lack.
And at least two of the other three don't?lol
Another Anti-botting system.... - Blades4hire - 2011-11-01
I've seen plenty of DBs botting with blade fury.
Same for CBs/Shads with BoT.
Buccs=dragon strike?
Another Anti-botting system.... - Raul - 2011-11-01
ShiKage Wrote:And at least two of the other three don't?lol
Okay, name an AOE for Shads and Buccs.
A legitimate AOE. 2 plats+.
And I really haven't seen a single bot of any of these classes.
It just seems inefficient.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Link - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:Okay, name an AOE for Shads and Buccs.
A legitimate AOE. 2 plats+.
And I really haven't seen a single bot of any of these classes.
It just seems inefficient.
AoEs are not required for botting and nor are they used for botting.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Blades4hire - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:Okay, name an AOE for Shads and Buccs.
A legitimate AOE. 2 plats+.
And I really haven't seen a single bot of any of these classes.
It just seems inefficient.
?
even the common BaM/Ice lightning hackers can't hit multiple platforms at once.
They have kami anyway.
Shadowers ->BoT
Buccs->Dragon Strike
Another Anti-botting system.... - hongyu - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:Okay, name an AOE for Shads and Buccs.
A legitimate AOE. 2 plats+.
And I really haven't seen a single bot of any of these classes.
It just seems inefficient.
It's not like the AoE matters really because they make all the monsters go to 1 spot in the first place and most botters uses other classes because they want to play the class afterward(changing ign,etc) or has someone that they need to sell to. If they are just botting for items everyone would be using mages anyways. I actually seen plenty of shad botters lol.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Raul - 2011-11-01
ShiKage Wrote:AoEs are not required for botting and nor are they used for botting.
Not required, yes used.
Yes very useful.
Blades4hire Wrote:?
even the common BaM/Ice lightning hackers can't hit multiple platforms at once.
They have kami anyway.
Shadowers ->BoT
Buccs->Dragon Strike
Hey, I can hit 2 plats (sometimes) on my legit I/L.
Is DS a legitimate AoE?
Doesn't really seem like it.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Link - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:Not required, yes used.
Yes very useful.
I want you to show me a botter that uses their ultimate every 30 seconds they're available. Unless you mean AoE as in Ice Strike, which is a main skill that is used no matter the reason for playing the class, no botter will waste their time, sitting around, waiting for the cool down (which almost all AoEs have) to finish.
Botters have a simple-programmed system that consists of maybe 10 seconds worth of different actions. Botting is supposed to be very simple and effective, not for someone to sit there and wait for their cool downs to finish, use their skill, and then press another button to make their program continue. That would be very counter productive.
Another Anti-botting system.... - hongyu - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:Hey, I can hit 2 plats (sometimes) on my legit I/L.
Is DS a legitimate AoE?
Doesn't really seem like it.
Mage botter these days all uses pg hack, they can combine it with another attack which contributes to like maybe 1% or less of the kills
Another Anti-botting system.... - Raul - 2011-11-01
ShiKage Wrote:I want you to show me a botter that uses their ultimate every 30 seconds they're available. Unless you mean AoE as in Ice Strike, which is a main skill that is used no matter the reason for playing the class, no botter will waste their time, sitting around, waiting for the cool down (which almost all AoEs have) to finish.
Botters have a simple-programmed system that consists of maybe 10 seconds worth of different actions. Botting is supposed to be very simple and effective, not for someone to sit there and wait for their cool downs to finish, use their skill, and then press another button to make their program continue. That would be very counter productive.
I mean AoE as in a non-ultimate.
Ice Strike, Explosion, Shining Ray.
3rd job skills for every Mage.
I can sit on the truck at mp3 spamming Ice Strike all day.
Another Anti-botting system.... - hongyu - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:I mean AoE as in a non-ultimate.
Ice Strike, Explosion, Shining Ray.
3rd job skills for every Mage.
I can sit on the truck at mp3 spamming Ice Strike all day.
That's not going to help botters since they use kami, Horizontal range attacks are a lot more effective to botters anyways. in majority of the botting spots.
Another Anti-botting system.... - Even - 2011-11-01
Raul Wrote:I mean AoE as in a non-ultimate.
Ice Strike, Explosion, Shining Ray.
3rd job skills for every Mage.
I can sit on the truck at mp3 spamming Ice Strike all day.
Thats not really botting, its more like afk grinding because you have to move each 100 hit and most people just watch tv or something while grinding mages from lvl 80 to 110 at mp3.
Another Anti-botting system.... - yo72 - 2011-11-04
Raul Wrote:I mean AoE as in a non-ultimate.You mean botters use a classes best mobbing skill!? Call channel 7!
Ice Strike, Explosion, Shining Ray.
3rd job skills for every Mage.
I can sit on the truck at mp3 spamming Ice Strike all day.