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Acceptance of illegal downloading - Homerowed - 2011-04-25 Hello Southperry, I am currently doing research for a term paper on how the acceptance of piracy relating to music files has changed the music culture and the music industry. This is for an IT class of mine called Social Informatics, which is largely just a discussion based class, where we read articles and discuss how technology is affecting society, and vice versa. As part of the project we are required to survey people from an online source, whether it is Facebook, emails, or a forum. I have chosen to first use forums for this project, because I believe the members of the forums I participate in are very savvy to technology, and the issues surrounding many things in the online world, such as illegal downloads. NOTE: In this survey I will take down no personal information from you other than your age which is necessary to the study. I will not even take down your username, and will probably not even mention these results as having come from this forum. The Survey: How old are you? Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: ( How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? How often did you go to concerts? ) Questions pertaining to AFTER you started to downloading music illegally ( How many albums or songs are you/have you been downloading illegally, on average, per month? How many albums or songs are you buying/have bought, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? How often do you go to concerts? Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? ) How acceptable is piracy to you? Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? Think of the answering of these questions as a means to inspire insight into an all too common practice by most savvy internet users, as well as helping me out immensely! Acceptance of illegal downloading - Derosis - 2011-04-25 Post here or on a PM? Acceptance of illegal downloading - Homerowed - 2011-04-25 Posting them in the thread is fine Acceptance of illegal downloading - Solarboy - 2011-04-25 I guess a PM would be better, since there is the possibility of flaming on both parts. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Takebacker - 2011-04-25 But then there wouldn't be much room for discussion based on answers, which will probably help him out as well as actually answering those question. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Russt - 2011-04-25 How old are you? 17 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? Age 13ish, originally Limewire I think If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? (I no longer do) because owning music is a hassle and unnecessary, what with Internet radio and all the music available on YouTube anyway. And because it's illegal I suppose Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: ( How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) None. This was before I actively listened to music Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? N/A How often did you go to concerts? Never ) Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally ( N/A ) How acceptable is piracy to you? It's infringement, sure, and I don't do it anymore, but I can live with myself for it and I don't try to convince others it's wrong Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Because a lot of music is freely available for listening (e.g. YouTube) and it's far too easy to get away with Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? It does increase visibility and such, but if everyone does it, that's silly. I think it's not so much that piracy has changed the music industry for the better, but that the system sucked in the first place, if people have such an incentive to cheat it all the time. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Imagine - 2011-04-25 How old are you? 17. Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? Around the summer of 5th grade, limewire. How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) None. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? ~10, with around 5-10 genres. How often did you go to concerts? Never. How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? ~5 songs per month, I haven't downloaded any recently due to limewire shutting down. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? 2. I downloaded them because I liked the bands that made them, and because one of them was the famed Sgt. Pepper. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? 55 artists, ~22 genres. How often do you go to concerts? Never. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? Yes. How acceptable is piracy to you? Kind of acceptable; I'm farily certain many up-and-coming bands/arists out there are unable to make as much money as they could before piracy. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? I think it's because to them, it's no different than borrowing someone's disc and then getting the songs off the disc Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? Yes and no. As stated before, while many up-and-coming artists may suffer a blow to their profits because of piracy, it also helps spread attention to those artists around faster. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Solarboy - 2011-04-25 How old are you? 17 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? I was about 13-14, Using Ares. If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? Well, I'm more of a radio person, and I can usually listen to all the songs I like in online radio, so there is no need for me to do such a thing. Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) None. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? Probably about 5 different genres from a lot of different artists. How often did you go to concerts? Never, I still haven't gone to a single one. Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally N/A How acceptable is piracy to you? I don't really care too much about it, if people want to do it then fine, I wouldn't try to shove down people's throats that downloading music illegally is bad. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Because it has become a really common practice by internet users Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? I don't think it has changed much. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Kevo - 2011-04-25 How old are you? 22 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? I can't recall when. Probably when I first got higher speed internet (compared to Dial up) maybe 7 years ago? As for how I found music, I believe it was just from using a search engine. I have never used any program beside an internet browser to download music. If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? N/A Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) 1-2. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? Around 10. If mass buying illegal copies of CDs in China counts then maybe 30? Mainly pop songs though. How often did you go to concerts? Never Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? As of late, maybe 2-3. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? I don't buy songs/albums. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? Hm, around 20? Genres maybe 5-6? How often do you go to concerts? Never Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? Yeah, but back then I never had a portable way to listen to digital music files (MP3 player). How acceptable is piracy to you? It's a generally accepted action, although I'm positive most people acknowledge that pirating music is wrong since we are still stealing property. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? I believe people recognize that this is stealing. Downloading music has become such a social norm that the action seems all right because everybody else does it. The additional fact that the chances of any repercussions are so slight that downloading music has likely become the fastest and cheapest way to obtain desirable music. Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? The internet's capacity to spread almost anything is amazing. Artists' music is more accessible than it has ever been so in a way, piracy has expanded the target market but whether this increases the amount of sales remains to be seen. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Jon - 2011-04-25 How old are you? 19 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes. If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? 13 or 14, on Limewire. If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? N/A Questions pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as iTunes, or buying cds from stores) I purchased maybe a CD a month. That was before iTunes was popular. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? 10~20. Mostly pop/rock. How often did you go to concerts? Never. Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally: How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? I no longer illegally download music. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? I purchase one or two albums a month. I don't feel the need to break the rules when I can support the artist. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? Hundreds of artists, almost any genre (minus metal and country). How often do you go to concerts? Never. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? I've always listened to music a lot, so no. How acceptable is piracy to you? Eh, if you do it, go ahead. Just don't involve me in it. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Because if they're downloading it due to being unable to purchase it, then it's a sale they wouldn't have anyway. Also, a lot of people feel that, since many people do it, it "doesn't matter." Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? Piracy has really helped spread out music to people who would normally not be able listen. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Loose - 2011-04-26 How old are you? 23 years old. Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Of course! If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? I started in 2001, one of the first songs was Clint Eastwood by Gorillaz. I started with Napster, back when it was called Aimster. If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? I only get what I like. Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: ( How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) One in all my life before illegally downloading music. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? Probably five artists of two genres. How often did you go to concerts? Zero. ) Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally ( How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? Around 20 songs a year. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? Two since I started, because I had the money and the other was a gift for someone. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? A lot of artists, a lot of genres. How often do you go to concerts? I don't like concerts. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? Yes. ) How acceptable is piracy to you? As long as you're not trying to sell pirated things, it's all good. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Because they won't get caught. Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? I think it's easier for new artists to get heard now and for them to grow. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Jedward - 2011-04-26 How old are you? 18 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes. If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? 12, on Limewire. Moved to muTorrent eventually. If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? N/A Questions pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as iTunes, or buying cds from stores) None. This was before I had an iPod. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? None. How often did you go to concerts? Never. Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally: How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? I no longer illegally download music. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? I buy albums when I can purchase them. I choose to buy them because it's usually higher-quality than what I can find easily online, and also because it's a sign of support for the artist. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? Hundreds of artists from different genres. No metal, though. How often do you go to concerts? I've gone to... four concerts, I think. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? Definitely. Not just because of piracy, though. How acceptable is piracy to you? I feel bad doing it, but I only did it because I was ridiculously broke at the time I got an iPod. I buy music on iTunes quite often. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Because it's not a lost sale, like Jon said. Also the legality of the situation, especially with torrents (where you technically aren't contributing to the problem if you don't seed). Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? Like Jon said, piracy helps with outreach. Newer audiences will definitely want to hear a song many times over before they decide that they like it, and these days you can't judge music by its cover. Or title. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Takebacker - 2011-04-26 Homerowed Wrote:Hello Southperry, Acceptance of illegal downloading - Killed - 2011-04-26 How old are you? 20 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? Probably around 2003, started with Limewire and then moved to Ares. If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? - Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: ( How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) I only bought about 2 different albums total before I started to pirate. More of a radio guy. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? 2 different artists, same genre. How often did you go to concerts? Never ) Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally ( How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? Anywhere from 5-10 songs on average. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? None. Only if I receive an iTunes card as a gift or something and have extra leftover after purchasing apps. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? About 65-70 different artists, 7-8 different genres. How often do you go to concerts? Never Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? Yes ) How acceptable is piracy to you? Pretty acceptable. I don't see it hurting artists that much, they still are making millions of dollars. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Probably because most people see it as something that can't be stopped. If something is on the internet, nobody is going to be able to stop someone from copying it. It's like posting an image and asking people not to copy it and use it even though it's as simple as right clicking it, copying, and pasting into paint. I think it's seen more as sharing, than stealing. Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? Somewhat. In my opinion, piracy is one of the main sources for advertisement for a lot of artists. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Berzerk - 2011-04-26 How old are you? 18 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Absolutely If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? Probably around 13ish using Limewire at first. Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) None. How often did you go to concerts? Never. Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? Easily 5-20 songs a month. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? I don't buy them, ever. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? Over 50, from all different types of genres How often do you go to concerts? Don't. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? Yeah. How acceptable is piracy to you? It's not, but I mainly blame the ignorance of the Music industry and how they won't change for the users needs. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? I'm not sure. Piracy is stealing any way you slice it. Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? Slighty, It seems like they're trying to change how music is bought, but it's still no where where it needs to be. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Sn1perJohnE - 2011-04-26 How old are you? - 21 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? - Yes If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? - 2005 If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? - N/a Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: ( How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) - 0 to 1 Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? - 3 or so, for both questions. How often did you go to concerts? - Once or twice before. ) Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally ( How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? - Roughly 5 to 8 songs How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? - 0 to 1, it was more worth it to buy, for bonus material and such. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? - 27 Artists, 8 Genres How often do you go to concerts? - Around 4 a year, sometimes more. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? - Yes, because I didn't listen to much music before. ) How acceptable is piracy to you? - I feel that if you were to download an album after a certain period of time after its release, it would be fine. Even if its right after or before it is released, I am accepting of it. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? - The music can be heard in so many places that it is almost a bit outlandish to call it stealing when you can hear music from so many different sources. Bands will even have fan pages where they have full songs available to listen to. Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? - I feel the availability of music will lead to more people being willing to attend concerts and by merchandise there or from other sources. It would also force bands to think more openly about the songs they make and allow them to be more varied with their music, since real lose taken from producing the songs. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Satellite - 2011-04-26 How old are you? 17 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? No. If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? - If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? If I were an artist trying to make a living out of my work, I wouldn't like piracy. I wouldn't like it at all. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Sure you can steal it, but it wasn't free for the person who made it. Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) 0. Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? 0-2 for both. How often did you go to concerts? Never. Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? - How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? - Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? - How often do you go to concerts? Never. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? - How acceptable is piracy to you? It's getting more and more accepted in the society, but I believe that if everyone downloaded all the media from internet, there soon wouldn't be hardly any new (good) movies, games, music etc. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? Because the chance to get caught is really small. Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? I honestly cannot answer that one as I don't know what the income of an artist consists of. Better for the consumers, sure. Even for the people who don't download music illegally, there's now services that are legally run with advertisement funds and/or small monthly fee's (such as Spotify). /end survey --------------------------------- random note: I'm probably only one in this thread who has never downloaded music illegally. The survey didn't ask about in-browser applications, so I'm not as clean as some may think. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Homerowed - 2011-04-26 Just to clarify because It may have been confusing, the section "Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally", may have identical questions but they are questions pertaining to AFTER you started pirating music, so don't think I just asked the same question twice and not answer the questions in that section (unless of course you haven't pirated music). I am not sure if anyone in this thread has done this yet, but it has happened in other places I have posted this survey so I am just clarifying. Other than that, thank you to everyone who has posted so far. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Rob - 2011-04-26 How old are you? 20 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? Yes. If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? I started with KaZaA, and then moved on to webs, it's way easier. If you dont pirate music what are your reasons? - Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: ( How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) I was buying like... an album a month? Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? Uh... like 20 artists, 3 or 4 genres. How often did you go to concerts? Once a year. I was 11-12 back when I started dling music though. It was different. ) Questions pertaining to if you answered yes to downloading music illegally ( How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? About 3 albums per month at least. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? Once in a while, like once a year, I buy an album to gift someone or to really support the artist I'm buying the album from. Otherwise most of the music I listen to isn't available in my country anyway. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? Artists? More than 250 that's for sure. And... about 20 genres? If you count subgenres as well, lol. If not, only big groups of genres... 10-12. How often do you go to concerts? Uh... 4 times or more a year. Not more than 10 though. Ever. Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? Yes, but it also has to do with the fact that I've grown up a lot. I listen to a broader list of genres and bands just because I've had more time to like them. I feel it's kind of obvious for most of the people that they start broadening their musical tastes when they get older, and they get to know more bands. Time makes us wiser I think. ) How acceptable is piracy to you? Totally acceptable. Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? I can only talk for my country here, but when most of the albums aren't available on physical copies and they're quite pricey, downloading is quite easy, affordable, and you can get everything that isn't published here. Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? Actually, yes. Before the pirating era, most of the music industry had started halting and rotting in a corner. They would release squat, and most labels and artists were in standby. They had to get their asses moving to keep the audiences happy. Another thing that is quite real and makes me feel good, is that MOST artists don't live by records sales anymore, they live by money from shows and presentations, which are in a great state of health lately. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, posting for relevance: ![]() Not entirely true, but kinda. Acceptance of illegal downloading - Born2BeMild - 2011-04-26 How old are you? 17 Have you ever illegally downloaded a music file? yes If so then when did you start downloading music illegally? And how? (napster, limewire, various other ways)? limewire, Torrents, FTP servers Question pertaining to a time before you ever pirated a music file: ( How many albums were you buying, on average, per month? (Whether from paid download services such as Itunes, or buying cds from stores) 0-1... a year Roughly how many different artists were featured in your collection, how many different genres? 5 aritists, 3 genres How often did you go to concerts? never been to one Questions pertaining to AFTER you started to downloading music illegally ( How many albums or songs are you downloading illegally, on average, per month? none, I stopped. How many albums or songs are you buying, and if so why do you choose to buy them when you can simply download them for free? working on getting all the good stuff I kept from pirating, progress is slow but sure. Roughly how many different artists are featured in your collection, how many different genres? a lot. How often do you go to concerts? N/A Would you say you listen to music more now than you did before illegal downloads? A lot more How acceptable is piracy to you? not very Why do you believe piracy is not seen as stealing by many people? I don't think it's stealing, I am buying what I "stole" Do you think piracy has, in anyway, changed the music industry for the better? yes, with all of these new flat rate downloading, and streaming services, things are changing |