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Strongest Thieves by Class - wobbufet - 2008-09-29
Remake of my topic on sw because I got some requests
I am aiming to provide a more complete picture of each character's strength. So we will see how characters rank at various levels. I have chosen Levels 120 (after 4th job adv.), 160, and 200 as our breakpoints for comparison. Indeed, you may argue that this is still not sufficient enough as a basis for comparison; and I would agree! However, we must draw the line at some point or else we would be forced to compare characters at all 200 levels. [NOTE: The chosen attack pots to be used in these comparisons will be Ciders and Onyx Apples.]
No hacking discussion, if you have proof someone is a hacker, PM me!
To apply to this list or to update current equipment, please post:
For Hermits/NLs:
Code:
Character IGN/Guild/Server:
Job/Class:
Character Level:
Base Dex:
+ Dex:
Base Luk:
+ Luk:
W.atk:Code:
Character IGN/Guild/Server:
Job/Class:
Character Level:
Base Str:
+ Str:
Base Dex:
+ Dex:
Base Luk:
+ Luk:
W.atk:And screenshots of your stats, without pots and without MW.
If you need MW to equip some of your equips, post a screenshot with and a screenshot without.
Note:
- For characters under level 120, I will add the 5 LUK from the 4th job advancement. Please post your current Total (base + bonus) LUK at your current level. [For any characters under level 70 that make this list, I will add the 10 Total LUK from 3rd and 4th job advancements. Please post your current Total (base + bonus) LUK at your current level.]
- Concerning Maple Warrior: I will be assuming +0% at Level 120, +5% at Level 160, and +10% at Level 200. For thieves that use Maple Warrior to equip their weapons, their stats will be adjusted accordingly for the list at Level 120 and also at Lvl. 160 if MW is greater than +5% to stats.
- You can PM me your stats/info but I prefer it if you just post it in here.
I will post the highest scoring 10 Hermits/NLs and the highest 10 CBs/Shadowers.
Formulas for Reference:
Hermits/NLs: (5.0 * LUK/ 100)* Weapon Attack
CBs/Shadowers: [(LUK * 3.6 + STR + DEX) / 100]* Weapon Attack
Weighted Average Formula:
A = Lvl. 200 Range with Apple and Echo of Hero
B = Lvl. 200 Range with Cider and Echo of Hero
C = Lvl. 160 Range with Apple
D = Lvl. 160 Range with Cider
E = Lvl. 120 Range with Apple
F = Lvl. 120 Range with Cider
Weighted Average = 0.35*(0.6*A + 0.4*B) + 0.45*(0.5*C + 0.5*D) + 0.2*(0.4*E + 0.6*F)
Link for the spreadsheet: http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=W9WWHO99
Hermits/Night Lords:
- 8947.190 ProportionaI/Guildless/Windia
- 8930.170 s3xykate/Honour/Bellocan
- 8793.350 szook/perfecty/Scania
- 8551.330 AkemiMegami/MSTRIAD/Windia
- 8542.660 FkPeru/SecksPlz/Broa
- 8282.560 FantaTwist/Inspire/Windia
- 7895.700 RajPwN/Guildless/Bellocan
- 7534.170 DARKS1M/Symbolic/Khaini
- 7471.790 Kasuhitomi/Scandalous/Scania
- 7378.920 Galyle/KoM/Scania
- 8191.735 lvlastaYoshi/TurtleHeroes/Khaini
- 8023.285 MrLifeStyles/Zealous/Scania
- 7712.040 Septher/Scandalous/Scania
- 7701.620 Baiko81/Honour/Bellocan
- 7658.995 xlFlipy/Forsaken/Bellocan
Strongest Thieves by Class - RajPwN - 2008-09-29
Character IGN/Guild/Server: RajPwN/Guildless/Bellocan My current guild is HellzAngelz but it's just a random guild I joined so I'd rather just have it as RajPwN/"guildless"/Bellocan. It's okay though if you want to put HellzAngelz.
Job/Class: Hermit/Thief
Character Level: 109
Base Dex: 51
+ Dex: +66
Base Luk: 511
+ Luk: 48
W.atk: 110
Hermits/NLs: (5.0 * LUK/ 100)* Weapon Attack
(5.0 * 769/ 100)* 110
(3845/ 100) * 110
38.45 * 110
4229.5
Screenshot:
![[Image: maple0040vq3.jpg]](http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9245/maple0040vq3.jpg)
Strongest Thieves by Class - Mopsy - 2008-09-29
Character IGN/Guild/Server: Galyle/KoM/Scania
Job/Class: NightLord
Character Level: 134
Base Dex: 86
+ Dex: 54
Base Luk: 588
+ Luk: 50
W.atk: 109
Spoiler
![[Image: stss.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Mopsy/stss.jpg)
Strongest Thieves by Class - snaga - 2008-09-30
Character IGN/Guild/Server: s3xykate / Honour / Bellocan
Job/Class: Night Lord
Character Level: 186
Base Dex: 30
+ Dex: 112
Base Luk: 922
+ Luk: 69
W.atk: 123
Spoiler
![[Image: MapleStory2008-09-3016-47-23-86.jpg]](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/snagaa/MapleStory2008-09-3016-47-23-86.jpg)
Strongest Thieves by Class - wobbufet - 2008-09-30
Where are my shadowers? T.T
Anyways added
Strongest Thieves by Class - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-09-30
I'll post my Night Lord's info on here very shortly. Give me a while to take a screenshot and calculate wep-att and what-not.
![[Image: wink.gif]](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/KGM/wink.gif)
PS: In regards to S3xykate, very nice damage range and stats. Nice to see an incredibly low-DEX Craven-user Night Lord.
Strongest Thieves by Class - RajPwN - 2008-09-30
snaga Wrote:Character IGN/Guild/Server: s3xykate / Honour / BellocanHoly pumpernickel! Let me guess your equips.. 70 Craven + 29 c-ilbis + 17 att SCG + 2 att FS + 5 att PAC ? Crazy w.atk.. 17 dex bottom + 3 dex top + 10 dex PAC + 13 dex earrings + 22 dex HT Pendant + 10 dex FS + 7 dex nose + 30 dex helm = +112 dex. 10 luk Craven + 18 luk top + 15 luk zhelm + 22 luk HT pendant = 65.. That's still 4 less + luk than you have.. Insane equips..
Job/Class: Night Lord
Character Level: 186
Base Dex: 30
+ Dex: 112
Base Luk: 922
+ Luk: 69
W.atk: 123
Strongest Thieves by Class - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-09-30
..and here are the results, please feel free to correct any mistakes.
Clean range: 1398 ~ 2439
Range with Cider: 1662 ~ 2900
Character IGN/Guild/Server: Kasuhitomi / Scandalous / Scania
Job/Class: Thief (Night Lord)
Character Level: 120
Base Dex: 81
+ Dex: +62
Base Luk: 536
+ Luk: +57
W.atk: 103 (if I calculated it right. See below!)
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59 wep attack (craven)
3 wep att (PAC)
15 wep att (SCG)
29 att (C-ilbies)
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106 total wep att @ lv 120!
(also, I don't use a FS, I have a 12 DEX Green Goni, if you're wondering.)
Images are in spoiler for range + stats and so on..
Spoiler
![[Image: Kasu_Cider_dmg_Lv1_TT-1.png]](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/KGM/Kasu_Cider_dmg_Lv1_TT-1.png)
![[Image: Kasuhitomi_stats_120.jpg]](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/KGM/Kasuhitomi_stats_120.jpg)
![[Image: Kasuhitomi_stats_w_cider.jpg]](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/KGM/Kasuhitomi_stats_w_cider.jpg)
Strongest Thieves by Class - wobbufet - 2008-10-01
Lol, in the Thieves flaunting thread it's all shadowers, but none here?
Added Kasuhitomi ^^
Strongest Thieves by Class - snaga - 2008-10-01
RajPwN Wrote:Holy pumpernickel! Let me guess your equips.. 70 Craven + 29 c-ilbis + 17 att SCG + 2 att FS + 5 att PAC ? Crazy w.atk.. 17 dex bottom + 3 dex top + 10 dex PAC + 13 dex earrings + 22 dex HT Pendant + 10 dex FS + 7 dex nose + 30 dex helm = +112 dex. 10 luk Craven + 18 luk top + 15 luk zhelm + 22 luk HT pendant = 65.. That's still 4 less + luk than you have.. Insane equips..
close but no cigar
working on a better cape atm but chaos scrolls arnt very abundant.
thanks for reposting this btw, i was wondering how the rest of the NL world was going
Strongest Thieves by Class - wobbufet - 2008-10-01
No problem, I like seeing it too
Strongest Thieves by Class - Kazahana - 2008-10-02
[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][SIZE="1"]I don't really understand your computation thing so I'll pull mines off the way it was done at sleepy's windian top 10:
total luk at level 150: 786
total attack: 120 with ilbis and 122 with c.ilbis
786*5/100*120 = 4716 - ilbis
786*5/100*122 = 4794.6 - c.ilbis
Equips:
![[Image: profil3_com-pic-53331-1.jpg]](http://www.profil3.com/pic/profil3_com-pic-53331-1.jpg)
71 atk 7dex 4 luk Green Sleve 16 atk SCG
2 atk fs 5 dex
4 atk 8 luk pink gaia
20 luk 1 dex top
15 dex 4 luk bottom
33 dex 15 luk zhelm
22 dex, 22 luk pendant
7 dex branch nose
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Strongest Thieves by Class - WeeItzSandra - 2008-10-02
Character IGN/Guild/Server:Baiko81/Honour/Bellocan
Job/Class:Shadower
Character Level:
Base Str:28
+ Str:60
Base Dex:70
+ Dex:92
Base Luk:668
+ Luk:60
W.atk:162
Spoiler
![[Image: Maple0090.jpg]](http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/darthmango_2006/Maple0090.jpg)
![[Image: Maple0091.jpg]](http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/darthmango_2006/Maple0091.jpg)
Strongest Thieves by Class - wobbufet - 2008-10-02
Kazahana Wrote:[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][SIZE="1"]I don't really understand your computation thing so I'll pull mines off the way it was done at sleepy's windian top 10:
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Basically all I need from you is a screenshot of your stats without maple warrior, and your total w. atk.
And yay first shadower ^_^
Strongest Thieves by Class - DARKS1M - 2008-10-04
Character IGN/Guild/Server: DARKS1M
Job/Class: NL
Character Level: 123
Base Dex: 102
+ Dex: 40
Base Luk: 534
+ Luk: 67
W.atk: 109
![[Image: maplestory2008100214011ug8.jpg]](http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5715/maplestory2008100214011ug8.jpg)
Not so great compared to other people...
Strongest Thieves by Class - wobbufet - 2008-10-05
^ It's not bad either, some people would kill for such stats ^^
Strongest Thieves by Class - DrRusty - 2008-10-05
I'm down by one attack since I sold my 15 atk to blow up a dragon khanjar. So now i'm using a 14 atk, but oh well.
![[Image: Maple0044.jpg]](http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/rustykundc5/Maple0044.jpg)
Character IGN/Guild/Server: MrLifeStyles/Zealous/Scania
Job/Class:Shadower
Character Level: 135
Base Str:17
+ Str:63
Base Dex: 58
+ Dex: 92
Base Luk: 626
+ Luk: 68
W.atk: 120 + 25 + 4 + 2 + 14 = 165
Strongest Thieves by Class - FantaTwist - 2008-10-05
Name: FantaTwist
Guild: Inspire
World: Windia
Level: 140
LUK: 753 (660+93)
DEX: 140 (62+78)
Total weapon attack: 112
Clean range:
![[Image: 17831704tc0.png]](http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5386/17831704tc0.png)
Strongest Thieves by Class - wobbufet - 2008-10-05
Added
@Rusty, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to upgrade your glove to like 16/17 atk than to try scrolling a 26+ dragon khanjar? o_O Dunno about scania prices but it seems logical to me...
Strongest Thieves by Class - DrRusty - 2008-10-05
I was going to try to scroll a glove until I saw that khanjar for sale.
It is cheaper to buy a 16/17 atk glove than it is to buy a 28 atk dragon khanjar, but scrolling a godly d khanjar is much easier than landing 30%s on a SCG.
Alot of my stuff is self scrolled
Edit: Why isnt that AkemiMegami girl on the list? Her equips are awesome