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Several questions about Aran - Devil - 2009-11-21
I have a few questions:
I still don't get how the "upgrade skills" Full Swing and Overswing get calculated...
1. Is this the correct way:
| Job / Skill | Double Swing | Triple Swing | Final Blow | Info |
| 1st Job | 140% x 2 | - | - | - |
| 2nd Job | 140% x 2 | 250% | - | - |
| 3rd Job | 250% x 2 | 600% | - | With maxed Full Swing (+110% x2 / +350%) |
| 4th Job | 420% x 2 | 840% | 700% | With maxed Overswing (+170% x2 / +240%) |
2. Can anyone explain that to me too:
Why would Final Blow (700% damage) be a usefull skill if you can just chain another Overswing, that does more damage (420% + 420% + 840%)?!?!
Or does Overswing something else then just 700% damage?
3. In what situation would the 3rd job skill "Whirlwind" usefull in -ANY- way?
I've been trying to think of situations, but I can't seem to find any... Anyone who has any idea's for what it could be used for?
4. About Combo Tempest
| 1 | 1210% damage | 10 Seconds | Attacks 15 enemies | Attacks 4 Times |
| 30 | 1500% damage | 40 Seconds | Attacks 15 enemies | Attacks 4 Times |
What does it do for 10 Seconds ~ 40 Seconds?!?!?!
Several questions about Aran - Kirov - 2009-11-21
Devil Wrote:What does it do for 10 Seconds ~ 40 Seconds?!?!?!
Freeze mobs.
Several questions about Aran - Holypie - 2009-11-21
I think it makes them OHKOable.
Several questions about Aran - Amphigory - 2009-11-22
Both of the above. The monsters are only OHKOable when they are under Tempest's freeze, whose duration is reliant on its level.
Several questions about Aran - Takebacker - 2009-11-22
Devil Wrote:I have a few questions:
I still don't get how the "upgrade skills" Full Swing and Overswing get calculated...
1. Is this the correct way:
Job / Skill Double Swing Triple Swing Final Blow Info 1st Job 140% x 2 - - - 2nd Job 140% x 2 250% - - 3rd Job 250% x 2 600% - With maxed Full Swing (+110% x2 / +350%) 4th Job 420% x 2 840% 700% With maxed Overswing (+170% x2 / +240%)
2. Can anyone explain that to me too:
Why would Final Blow (700% damage) be a usefull skill if you can just chain another Overswing, that does more damage (420% + 420% + 840%)?!?!
Or does Overswing something else then just 700% damage?
3. In what situation would the 3rd job skill "Whirlwind" usefull in -ANY- way?
I've been trying to think of situations, but I can't seem to find any... Anyone who has any idea's for what it could be used for?
4. About Combo Tempest
1 1210% damage 10 Seconds Attacks 15 enemies Attacks 4 Times 30 1500% damage 40 Seconds Attacks 15 enemies Attacks 4 Times
What does it do for 10 Seconds ~ 40 Seconds?!?!?!
1) After full swing, the damage is exactly what it says in the skill window. Same thing for overswing...just double swing hits twice with max full swing, while both double and triple swing hits twice with overswing.
2) Over double swing = 340% damage.
Over triple swing = 480% damage.
Level 1 final blow = 410% damage.
Max final blow = 700% damage.
How is it's use not obvious?
3) It isn't useful. Ever.
4) It freezes monsters/makes them ohkoable for the amount of time listed.
Several questions about Aran - Devil - 2009-11-22
Takebacker Wrote:1) After full swing, the damage is exactly what it says in the skill window. Same thing for overswing...just double swing hits twice with max full swing, while both double and triple swing hits twice with overswing.I still don't get it... really... so it doesn't get added, but instead of it the damage gets replaced but the hits are doubled? But double swing already hits 2 times? Or does it hit 2 times 2 times then (2x2) and triple swing also hits 2 times then?
2) Over double swing = 340% damage.
Over triple swing = 480% damage.
Level 1 final blow = 410% damage.
Max final blow = 700% damage.
How is it's use not obvious?
Can anyone just give me the damage numbers with the maxed skills and the times it hits in 1st/2nd/3rd/4th job? I totally don't get how it works... How do you get to 340%? and 480%? and 410%!?!?!?! Doesn't the damage it says get ADDED to the 1st / 2nd and 3rd job skill damage?!?!?
Because you say it gets replaced instead of added, will this be the damage then:
1st job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%
2nd job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%
2nd job: lvl20 triple swing: 1x 250%
3rd job: lvl20 full swing double swing: 2x 110% damage (LOL wtp WEAKER?!?!?)
3rd job: lvl20 full swing triple swing: 1x 350% damage (YAY Stronger!!!!)
4th job: lvl30 overswing double swing: 2x 170% damage (YAY Stronger again!!!!)
4th job: lvl30 overswing triple swing: 1x 240% (ROFL WEAKER?!?!?)
Several questions about Aran - Lozmaster - 2009-11-22
Devil Wrote:1st job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%
2nd job: lvl20 double swing: 2x 140%
2nd job: lvl20 triple swing: 1x 250%
3rd job: lvl20 full swing double swing: 2x 110% damage (LOL wtp WEAKER?!?!?)
3rd job: lvl20 full swing triple swing: 1x 350% damage (YAY Stronger!!!!)
4th job: lvl30 overswing double swing: 2x 170% damage (YAY Stronger again!!!!)
4th job: lvl30 overswing triple swing: 1x 240% (ROFL WEAKER?!?!?)
...Where on earth are you getting these numbers from.
Double swing.
1st job = 1 x 140% = 140%
2nd Job= No change
3rd Job = 2 x 110% = 220%
4th Job = 2 x 170% = 340%
Triple Swing
2nd Job = 1x 250%= 250%
3rd Job = 1 x 350% = 350%
4th Job = 2 x 240% = 480%
Several questions about Aran - Devil - 2009-11-22
Lozmaster Wrote:...Where on earth are you getting these numbers from.Hmmmm wait... I think I'm starting to understand now.... so double swing is actually "second swing" and triple swing is actually "third swing"... oh nice translation there Nexon...! xD
Double swing.
1st job = 1 x 140% = 140%
2nd Job= No change
3rd Job = 2 x 110% = 220%
4th Job = 2 x 170% = 340%
Triple Swing
2nd Job = 1x 250%= 250%
3rd Job = 1 x 350% = 350%
4th Job = 2 x 240% = 480%
Would that result into (4th job full swing and overswing maxed)
1st hit (normal attack): 100% damage (Hits 1 time)
2nd hit ("second swing"): 170% damage (Hits 2 times)
3rd hit ("third swing"): 240% damage (Hits 2 times)
So it actually hits 5 times per "combo"
Ahhh now I get it... so the total combo damage would be (not including criticals) 100+170+170+240+240 = 920% damage.
Ah ok, now I understand Final Blow's use (700% damage) also!
Putting it into a table:
| Job / Skill | Normal attack | Double Swing | Triple Swing | Final Blow |
| 1st Job | 100% | 140% x 1 | - | - |
| 2nd Job | 100% | 140% x 1 | 250% x1 | - |
| 3rd Job | 100% | 110% x 2 | 350% x1 | - |
| 4th Job | 100% | 170% x 2 | 240% x2 | 700% |