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[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - MuscleWizard - 2011-10-22
Heffalump Wrote:Obviously a level 47 beginner with NPC-bought equips does better mob DPS than a F/P archmage with 500% INT.thats technically possible if the archmage is using a pico pico hammer and physical attack :U
It's simple logic.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - ChronosXIII - 2011-10-22
hamad138 Wrote:u are the biggest noob ever.
AFA increase the DPM BY A LOT, MEANING we have now much higher DPM than heroes. We are far ahead of all warrios in the Moment. Also they removed damage distrubition, so OS will always do 100% on 0-8MOBS. Final Toss is official Useless now.
Also we got high damage Increase like OS and 40%Def Ignore + Boss DPM. Also we got the updates from the Legend Patch. Arans are one of the top classes now.
KEYBIND ARAN= MERCEDES + DS.
Spoiler
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[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Zangash - 2011-10-22
ChronosXIII Wrote:Spoiler
He starts his post off with "u". The answer should be pretty obvious.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Imitazion - 2011-10-22
ChronosXIII Wrote:you're replying to hamad, what do you expect.Spoiler
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - SwordStaker - 2011-10-22
I hope they don't nerf Evans if they fix this up more>.> IMHO they're right where they need to be. Better then the other mages. Sure buff em up but don't knock Evans right back down. Also interested in what else Elin will have.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Zangash - 2011-10-22
SwordStaker Wrote:I hope they don't nerf Evans if they fix this up more>.> IMHO they're right where they need to be. Better then the other mages. Sure buff em up but don't knock Evans right back down. Also interested in what else Elin will have.
I can pretty much guarantee you that they won't be better than the other mages by this time next month...
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - HKSmaster - 2011-10-22
am i the only one here who actually enjoys using a wild hunter? i think the 50% boost to wild shot is pretty nice but BM's still whoop that ass in LHC.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - L2X - 2011-10-22
HKSmaster Wrote:am i the only one here who actually enjoys using a wild hunter?Yoohoo over here
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Dudewitbow - 2011-10-22
HKSmaster Wrote:am i the only one here who actually enjoys using a wild hunter? i think the 50% boost to wild shot is pretty nice but BM's still whoop that ass in LHC.
<< points at character, though now, im going to have to deck some of my sharp eyes so i can start to master AFA, or just continue to level when i can, what im going to enjoy most is do trolling amount of damage with clawcut and jaguar-oshi(1200% lol) + Jaguar Masterys 40
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - bast963 - 2011-10-22
hamad138 Wrote:u are the biggest noob ever.
AFA increase the DPM BY A LOT, MEANING we have now much higher DPM than heroes. We are far ahead of all warrios in the Moment. Also they removed damage distrubition, so OS will always do 100% on 0-8MOBS. Final Toss is official Useless now.
Also we got high damage Increase like OS and 40%Def Ignore + Boss DPM. Also we got the updates from the Legend Patch. Arans are one of the top classes now.
KEYBIND ARAN= MERCEDES + DS.
First of all, keybind Aran is a hack, because keybinding double swing is the same as keybinding mastery: IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
Now, it's quite obvious that (with the double swing part of OS being the same delay as FT) OS would be better if all you did was spam the double 400% double swing part of OS exclusively. Mixed with FA, this would be super broken.
Second:
FA: 80% proc, 200% damage
AFA: 70% proc, 210% damage, 20 atk
HURR DURR AFA IS SOOO TOTALLY WORTH THE 30 SP YOU GUYS. Seriously, lvl 1 AFA is like 56% proc with 163% damage. That's lower than max FA for Arans.
Third:
(damage distribution no longer exists, making OS+FB "stronger")
dps with OS+FB, no FA: 1591%
dps with OS+FB, assume regular FA activates twice (second hit and third hit, since that's when it's only allowed to activate): 1806%
dps with OS+FB, new AFA exclusively for Arans that gives 100% proc and 300% damage: 1913%
dps by doing 3 FT (maxed sudden) and having 10 ms to spare: 1920%
dps if FA worked with FT and it activates twice: 2320%
FA only helps in 1vs1 because it can only mob with Slash Blast. When mobbing, FT blows OS+FB out of the water.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Sorien - 2011-10-22
HKSmaster Wrote:am i the only one here who actually enjoys using a wild hunter? i think the 50% boost to wild shot is pretty nice but BM's still whoop that ass in LHC.
My Job says that I'm a Paladin, but I've pretty much switched to my Wild Hunter as a main. In any case, I do like the changes up until fourth job. I do not, however, like the fourth job changes (much). AFA and the 50% Vulcan boost just seem like overkill, we didn't get anything to replace Stinkbomb Shot (I just don't like this skill), and Sonic Roar is weaker than Swipe (and possibly even Ricochet).
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - hamad138 - 2011-10-22
dps with OS+FB, no FA: 1591% <---- ? 100+400+400+490+490+1065=2945%
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - PeePeeAyeDeeKay - 2011-10-22
hamad138 Wrote:dps with OS+FB, no FA: 1591% <---- ? 100+400+400+490+490+1065=2945%
DPS = damage per second?, it's not damage per OverSwing Chain + Final Blow
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Blades4hire - 2011-10-22
hamad138 Wrote:dps with OS+FB, no FA: 1591% <---- ? 100+400+400+490+490+1065=2945%Too bad it takes 3 seconds to do that.
This isn't Damage Per 3 Seconds, it's damage per second.
Even if magically you could do 2900% a second, that's still much less than demon slayers, and lower than Heros
Even with key binding you'd be worse.
That's a stupid argument anyways.
Hurr durr my Battle Mage with no delay outdamages your Mercedes mang
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - hamad138 - 2011-10-22
PeePeeAyeDeeKay Wrote:DPS = damage per second?, it's not damage per OverSwing Chain + Final Blowok!
but demon slayer and mercedes ae still miles ahead, nerf is needed like hell.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - JoeTang - 2011-10-22
Ultra Ignore. Use it.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - ShinkuDragon - 2011-10-22
JoeTang Wrote:Ultra Ignore. Use it.
and miss the fun? no thanks.
also, am i the only one laughing so hard at the elemental weaknesses of the fairy queen? (hint, they aren't weaknesses.)
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Heffalump - 2011-10-22
don't mind me forgetting I doubleposted...
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - Heffalump - 2011-10-22
hamad138 Wrote:ok!
but demon slayer and mercedes ae still miles ahead, nerf is needed like hell.
![[Image: captain-obvious-to-the-rescue.jpg]](http://ktliterary.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/captain-obvious-to-the-rescue.jpg)
MuscleWizard Wrote:thats technically possible if the archmage is using a pico pico hammer and physical attack :U
Fine, clarified it.
[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween - bast963 - 2011-10-22
Blades4hire Wrote:Too bad it takes 3 seconds to do that.
This isn't Damage Per 3 Seconds, it's damage per second.
Even if magically you could do 2900% a second, that's still much less than demon slayers, and lower than Heros
Even with key binding you'd be worse.
That's a stupid argument anyways.
Hurr durr my Battle Mage with no delay outdamages your Mercedes mang
I did my calculations at faster (2) instead of normal (6). It takes 1860 ms to do OS+FB.
dps with OS double swing only (no neutral attack or triple), FA activates twice: 2800%
Keybind Aran is kinda OP.
But... 2900% isn't enough? The hell? What's DS and Mercedes dps, like 6000%?