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KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - SaptaZapta - 2011-11-12

If DrK's had the same DPM as Heros, or even double the DPM, would it make up for the fact that they die like the most fragile of bowmen at the first ill-timed 1/1?

Nexon can't balance, period, regardless of whether they can calculate DPM or not.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Viaje - 2011-11-12

SaptaZapta Wrote:If DrK's had the same DPM as Heros, or even double the DPM, would it make up for the fact that they die like the most fragile of bowmen at the first ill-timed 1/1?
I don't understand why this question is being asked.
It would appear you're trying to 'wow' me with a point I've already agreed with.

SaptaZapta Wrote:Nexon can't balance, period, regardless of whether they can calculate DPM or not.
"Can't"? False.
Don't? Well, not consistently.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - GhostShip - 2011-11-12

What a letdown after seeing what evans got. I am quite happy about the crit skill for us mages, but I was hoping for more.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Eliseo - 2011-11-12

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:If you do the 'Little Indian' event enough times then you get it.

I want a "little Mage" event so I can get one with Grendels Hat instead of Dances with Balrog Hat.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - hamad138 - 2011-11-13

Guys nexon isnt doing pro contra for each class. They want to make all classes perfect. Everyone have now fj, shadow partner etc... The old pro and contra system is gone since Big Bang. Accept it, for example theres.0 con for demon slayers.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Dark Link - 2011-11-13

TheBlackMage Wrote:"NX" in lunia for endgame? lol no
Myth 6 gear is cheap as ****

Glad they fixed it. Before "Lunia Z", if you wanted any shot at Myth 2+, you HAD to buy the Myth gear from the Cash Shop as the gear you got for free, from hitting 70 or whatever, was absolutely terrible.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Satellite - 2011-11-13

It still is funny how mages, bowmen and warriors got revamped twise while thieves and pirates are still waiting for their FIRST revamp. Even though it's quite confirmed that thief legend (and possibly pirate legend) will come out around December.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Sorien - 2011-11-13

Satellite Wrote:It still is funny how mages, bowmen and warriors got revamped twise while thieves and pirates are still waiting for their FIRST revamp. Even though it's quite confirmed that thief legend (and possibly pirate legend) will come out around December.

I find it more sad than funny, and I find it even more sad that these past few patches have been such crap. I seriously think they should have just left the other classes alone and skipped straight to Thieves and Pirates, since they've done nothing right with this revamp yet.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Abysseon - 2011-11-13

Satellite Wrote:It still is funny how mages, bowmen and warriors got revamped twise while thieves and pirates are still waiting for their FIRST revamp.

I wouldn't call this a revamp.

Its basically just % damage increases as opposed to jump/ascension which actually changed the
affected classes in terms of gameplay.

The only classes to get revamped twice are evans and arans. (Chaos and Legend)


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Voyant - 2011-11-13

I don't mean to add more bitching to the bitching, but yeah dude...pirates and thieves have been seriously fucked for so long now. They better have some good stuff set up for us.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - SwordStaker - 2011-11-13

Voyant Wrote:I don't mean to add more bitching to the bitching, but yeah dude...pirates and thieves have been seriously fucked for so long now. They better have some good stuff set up for us.
And even then you guys won't be quiet about it>.>


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Cattle - 2011-11-13

Probably just me but I think the spear change is pretty ridiculous. I hope I'm misunderstanding something, but now all spears are the same speed as the glaive? If so, then that's not really fair to glaive users who spent a lot of money scrolling/cubing them. Would make more sense if booster just added 2-3+ speed instead.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Arrol - 2011-11-13

SwordStaker Wrote:And even then you guys won't be quiet about it>.>

That's just how they are. Lord knows the pineapplestorm that will occur when the Thief Legend takes their skills as well.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Sorien - 2011-11-13

Cattle Wrote:Probably just me but I think the spear change is pretty ridiculous. I hope I'm misunderstanding something, but now all spears are the same speed as the glaive? If so, then that's not really fair to glaive users who spent a lot of money scrolling/cubing them. Would make more sense if booster just added 2-3+ speed instead.

If nexon cared about this kind of logic, then they wouldn't have released the potential system.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - ShinkuDragon - 2011-11-13

Arrol Wrote:That's just how they are. Lord knows the pineapplestorm that will occur when the Thief Legend takes their skills as well.

oh boy... DB's were fun fun fun..


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Baklava - 2011-11-13

Cattle Wrote:Probably just me but I think the spear change is pretty ridiculous. I hope I'm misunderstanding something, but now all spears are the same speed as the glaive? If so, then that's not really fair to glaive users who spent a lot of money scrolling/cubing them. Would make more sense if booster just added 2-3+ speed instead.

KMS does not have that weapon.
The polearms that are over Lv120 are normal speed, but all spears over lv120 are slow right now.


Derp.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - SwordStaker - 2011-11-13

Arrol Wrote:That's just how they are. Lord knows the pineapplestorm that will occur when the Thief Legend takes their skills as well.
Exactly...why is it that the DEDICATED brawlers are the ones who don't peach but only hope and pray for the revamp>.>. Seriously, I have about 5-6 buccs in my guild who don't give a pomegranate they're the slowest and what not, they just say "I hope the revamp DOES do good things for us, if not then w.e"


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - valhala556 - 2011-11-14

Abysseon Wrote:I wouldn't call this a revamp.

Its basically just % damage increases as opposed to jump/ascension which actually changed the
affected classes in terms of gameplay.

The only classes to get revamped twice are evans and arans. (Chaos and Legend)

If thats the case then paladins are in the same boat as theifs. its not like ascension added any new skills for us....
But honnestly The only classes i feel that need a "revamp" are NLs(basiclly everything) and corsiars (just to do something with rapid fire).
Paladins should also just cuz no party defence skills and no Force mob elemental.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - Mazz - 2011-11-14

Kind of glad that Spears are normal speed instead of slow, but it sucks for people that invested specifically in faster weapons, but I guess that's how it goes. Really excited to see the Thief/Pirate updates, I /hate/ that they're the last ones though, so annoying.


KMST 1.2.408 - More skill revamps - CarrionCrow - 2011-11-14

Mazz Wrote:but it sucks for people that invested specifically in faster weapons

Why? A normal speed spear will not reach speed cap even with decent SI, so a fast polearm is still king. It does suck for those with VIP spears though since Nexon probably going to overlook them when copypasting the KMS update.