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Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Locked - 2010-09-27
IsaacGS Wrote:I sure hope there's no one here who seriously believes that stuff would drop there. No way Nexon's going to let valuable items slip out of gach into ordinary drop tables. How could they possibly make money from that?
I think it's safe to say most of their money now is now on cubes.
So more people getting higher leveled equips = More cubing = more money.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Takebacker - 2010-09-27
IsaacGS Wrote:I sure hope there's no one here who seriously believes that stuff would drop there. No way Nexon's going to let valuable items slip out of gach into ordinary drop tables. How could they possibly make money from that?
Dragon weapons were considered valuable items a few years ago.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Erich - 2010-09-27
The thing is, the storyline is completely unaffected by the rest of the maple world here. It doesn't technically hnt it's in the past. The reason people didn't believe we could get it was because of neo city, and the fact that later on this OLD version of access to kaede castle was renovated to fit into kamuna when neo tokyo was made. The reason we can't get Neo Tokyo is different. There's a duplicate running around with everything it is (besides the story) in our version. How can you have two of the same thing?
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Takebacker - 2010-09-27
Erich Wrote:How can you have two of the same thing?
Visitor event paradoxes say hi?
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - SwordStaker - 2010-09-27
ShiKage Wrote:All mobs in Kaede Castle drop either a 10%, 30%, 60%, 70% or 100% Shield for Weapon Attack or Magic Attack scroll. Tonosama (the toad boss) drops Elemental Wands/Staves and probably more stuff. Head Ninjas drop Ilbis and Stonetooth Swords.Question. How are Head Ninja's good training?From what I saw their map was kinda crappy.
I'm not sure what else drops what. The Kaede Castle JQ is fun, though.
Erich Wrote:The thing is, the storyline is completely unaffected by the rest of the maple world here. It doesn't technically hnt it's in the past. The reason people didn't believe we could get it was because of neo city, and the fact that later on this OLD version of access to kaede castle was renovated to fit into kamuna when neo tokyo was made. The reason we can't get Neo Tokyo is different. There's a duplicate running around with everything it is (besides the story) in our version. How can you have two of the same thing?Since when were Neo City and Neo Tokyo the same thing? Mobs can be placed anywhere but NPC's can't. But Neo City has completely different NPC"s from that of Neo Tokyo, thus the stories aren't the same. OK they aren't 100% different, they look the same but their names and functions aren't.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - AzureKite - 2010-09-27
Erich Wrote:The thing is, the storyline is completely unaffected by the rest of the maple world here. It doesn't technically hnt it's in the past. The reason people didn't believe we could get it was because of neo city, and the fact that later on this OLD version of access to kaede castle was renovated to fit into kamuna when neo tokyo was made. The reason we can't get Neo Tokyo is different. There's a duplicate running around with everything it is (besides the story) in our version. How can you have two of the same thing?
Yes it was renovated, but they kept the old way of entering Ninja Castle as well as implementing the new way. The items needed to enter Neo Tokyo drop from monsters in Ninja Castle, so I assume they're adding it as well. Not sure if these drops were implemented before or after Neo Tokyo was added though.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Erich - 2010-09-27
Takebacker Wrote:Visitor event paradoxes say hi?
But that isn't two of the same thing. It's just a story making you believe it is. Stop being so optomistic. It's impossible. If by some odd chance we do get neo tokyo, it still won't be the same as the real neo tokyo. They'd have to give some reason as to why there's an identical area with nearly identical names and identical mosnters in identical areas. That is a completely different paradox then the Visitor event. What can an event prove, on top of that, a non-KMS event?
And onto the drops: all the zipangu drops have already been changed. Why wouldn't kaede's be?
And at above, the items you need for neo tokyo are from asia in kamuna. We don't have kamuna. (or, the same kamuna to be correct). The items you need are normal ETC items. Nothing was changed in kaede castle before and after neo tokyo was created. Just the method of access.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - AzureKite - 2010-09-27
Erich Wrote:But that isn't two of the same thing. It's just a story making you believe it is. Stop being so optomistic. It's impossible. If by some odd chance we do get neo tokyo, it still won't be the same as the real neo tokyo. They'd have to give some reason as to why there's an identical area with nearly identical names and identical mosnters in identical areas. That is a completely different paradox then the Visitor event. What can an event prove, on top of that, a non-KMS event?The area isn't really called Neo Tokyo in MapleSEA. It's just called "Tokyo" on the map. So it works.
And onto the drops: all the zipangu drops have already been changed. Why wouldn't kaede's be?
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Erich - 2010-09-27
AzureKite Wrote:The area isn't really called Neo Tokyo in MapleSEA. It's just called "Tokyo" on the map. So it works.
Okay, so you fixed one name. Now fix the other ~20 or 30 names of all the monsters and NPCs. It doesn't work. It's more then just names, too. Both areas are aesteticly the same.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Abysseon - 2010-09-27
Locked Wrote:I think it's safe to say most of their money now is now on cubes.
So more people getting higher leveled equips = More cubing = more money.
I think that they still wish to keep players interested in gach.
With elemental wands/staves no longer being gach-exclusive, what else is there
to make players waste money on gachapon other than white scrolls/masks/chairs?
And now it seems that they're making future chairs untradable... >.>
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - AzureKite - 2010-09-27
Erich Wrote:Okay, so you fixed one name. Now fix the other ~20 or 30 names of all the monsters and NPCs. It doesn't work. It's more then just names, too. Both areas are aesteticly the same.Well take a look at MapleSEA's copy-pasted monster book. They have Eruwater and Iruvata. They also have multiple Dunas monsters, Auf Haven, Aufheben, and ect. Though, they don't have Neo City yet. But, they have all the monster book data already. Leads me to believe they'll eventually get Neo City, like we'll hopefully get Neo Tokyo.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Twilight - 2010-09-27
IsaacGS Wrote:I sure hope there's no one here who seriously believes that stuff would drop there. No way Nexon's going to let valuable items slip out of gach into ordinary drop tables. How could they possibly make money from that?
Area Bosses.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Takebacker - 2010-09-27
Erich Wrote:Stop being so optomistic.
It's funny because i'm the exact opposite in real life.
Also, neo city isn't such hot s'hit compared to LHC. I would rather have that.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Erich - 2010-09-27
AzureKite Wrote:Well take a look at MapleSEA's copy-pasted monster book. They have Eruwater and Iruvata. They also have multiple Dunas monsters, Auf Haven, Aufheben, and ect. Though they donj't have Neo City yet. But they have all the monster book data already.
Like I said already. Names are different. They're also bad translations. The names are just a very small part of the spectrum of why we cannot get neo tokyo. Just because you might have solved that, doesn't mean we can. The appearance is the issue that bugs us from not being able to get it.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - FlameChocobo - 2010-09-27
My Reaction
Someone whack me in a head for having false fear of World Tour removal. Looks like I'm going to have to play GMS even if it isn't Big Bang.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - AzureKite - 2010-09-27
Erich Wrote:Like I said already. Names are different. They're also bad translations. The names are just a very small part of the spectrum of why we cannot get neo tokyo. Just because you might have solved that, doesn't mean we can. The appearance is the issue that bugs us from not being able to get it.
I'm leaving it at that, since I can't prove we're getting Neo Tokyo. But, I sure as heck think I brought up some viable points as to why we may get it. Obviously, it doesn't mean we are. But, don't just disagree with them outright if you have no idea either. Ninja Castle surprised quite a lot of us, and I'm sure there are other surprises Nexon could pull.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Erich - 2010-09-27
AzureKite Wrote:I'm leaving it at that, since I can't prove we're getting Neo Tokyo. But, I sure as heck think I brought up some viable points as to why we may get it. Obviously, it doesn't mean we are. But, don't just disagree with them outright if you have no idea either. Ninja Castle surprised quite a lot of us, and I'm sure there are other surprises Nexon could pull.
I really get where you're coming from, man. But I just don't think it is possible. Thank god Kaede wasn't raped my KMS before we got it, at least. That's all I can say.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - SwordStaker - 2010-09-27
Erich Wrote:Like I said already. Names are different. They're also bad translations. The names are just a very small part of the spectrum of why we cannot get neo tokyo. Just because you might have solved that, doesn't mean we can. The appearance is the issue that bugs us from not being able to get it.What names in Neo City are the same other than Asia. What about the Jack Barricade NPC in Neo City.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Kabanaw - 2010-09-27
AzureKite Wrote:I'm leaving it at that, since I can't prove we're getting Neo Tokyo. But, I sure as heck think I brought up some viable points as to why we may get it. Obviously, it doesn't mean we are. But, don't just disagree with them outright if you have no idea either. Ninja Castle surprised quite a lot of us, and I'm sure there are other surprises Nexon could pull.
Neo Tokyo looks exactly the same as Neo City. Two areas, even if they give them completely different storylines and names, that look exactly the same can not co-exist in the same game. MSEA either has both sets of monster card data because they're completely insane or, more likely, are replacing Neo Tokyo with Neo City. Kaede Castle doesn't conflict with anything in the game right now. Neo Tokyo does.
Have Fun Storming the Ninja Castle! - Five Second Pose - 2010-09-27
SwordStaker Wrote:What names in Neo City are the same other than Asia. What about the Jack Barricade NPC in Neo City.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they changed any of them.
Erich, you're running the "oh we can't get showa because the SAUNA LADY is in mushroom shrine" argument again, except with more people and a different area. Does Nexon REALLY need to explain ANYTHING they do with this game?