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4th Job Brainstorming - Mudkip - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:Fine.Because 97% of marauders past 100 are leeching to 120 anyway.
No srsly. I don't see a reason to solo himes. The exp cannot be much better than typhons (same exp per kill, but typhons have 12k less HP), the pot burn is a lot more than typhons, and it's 100 times more crowded than typhons regardless of whether you're in a party or not.
unless u have long range, typhoon arent that good for u, regardless of their hp and dmg.
4th Job Brainstorming - Dusk - 2009-01-02
I trained a Priest at Himes with a 9x Marauder who did Stun-Xform-Shockwave first; it was pretty good exp when he was transformed, but it was painful to watch him when he wasn't. I don't recommend going down that path, it's a mess.
4th Job Brainstorming - SakumaErada - 2009-01-02
started himes at 87 doing max xform to continue himes while having the current build. Im currently 94 and yea its pomegranate pot burn, but i party with priests so its pretty good % per hour and Loose is right hackers pretty much have himes on lock, but i scare them off as best as possible. After max Trans im gettin Blast to 21 then maxing shockwave/
Stun Maxed
E. Charge 5
E Blast 11
Drain 1
Trans 16
Shockwave 21
4th Job Brainstorming - Loose - 2009-01-02
Mudkip Wrote:unless u have long range, typhoon arent that good for u, regardless of their hp and dmg.You are wrong.
Bandits have similar range to Brawlers and that place is godly to them, they're the only reason I made it to Shadower. Having experienced that map for nearly 20 levels on a Bandit, I can do pretty damn well at that map with my Brawler. At level 95 I started gaining about 30% an hour, missing Typhons nearly 40% of the time; now at level 110, I'm averaging around 18% an hour, possibly reaching 20% if I actually payed attention to what I'm doing.
Note that I'm a very poor Marauder when it comes to damage, having a base of 100 DEX, not having an attack glove nor cape and lacking an ugly Zakum Helmet.
4th Job Brainstorming - Worthyness - 2009-01-02
How does one train at typhons with a melee? I've only trained there with a bowmaster so, any help would be appreciated.
4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
Worthyness Wrote:How does one train at typhons with a melee? I've only trained there with a bowmaster so, any help would be appreciated.
[youtube]WW4OLiJdQPA[/youtube]
Credits to loose.
4th Job Brainstorming - TLeviathan - 2009-01-04
Build so far
Spoiler
Projected Build
Spoiler
After this I suppose I'll do Orb.
4th Job Brainstorming - Dusk - 2009-01-04
ZachAttack Wrote:-youtube link-
Credits to loose.
How fast is that? As a BM I can just sit in the middle and spam AR, occasionally loosing an Inferno to either side to lure another large mob in. The whole running around the map thing means you aren't attacking half the time.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-04
Dusk Wrote:How fast is that? As a BM I can just sit in the middle and spam AR, occasionally loosing an Inferno to either side to lure another large mob in. The whole running around the map thing means you aren't attacking half the time.
He said something about 30% an hour at 9x, 20% at 100+.
4th Job Brainstorming - ItzTaylor - 2009-01-04
Everytime I go to Typhons (a total of twice). I always see CBs BoTing (Band of Thieves) them. Never saw any other class, and the maps looked pretty empty.
Pretty sure there are better places to train.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-04
Well there's definietly easier places to train as far as method goes.
4th Job Brainstorming - Loose - 2009-01-04
Takebacker Wrote:Well there's definietly easier places to train as far as method goes.Easier, yes. That's why I prefer Typhons, I'm actually moving around, being careful not to fall, luring Typhons to the middle. Instead of standing in the same area the entire time.
Typhons are thrilling. Can't wait to see what they come up with for the Keep part II.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-04
Loose Wrote:Typhons are thrilling. Can't wait to see what they come up with for the Keep part II.
Nice small flat maps with 15 spawn points filled with fire weak monsters (pineapple yeah burner training for corsairs) that have 150k HP and give 6100 exp each.
4th Job Brainstorming - ItzTaylor - 2009-01-04
I see where Loose is coming from. I too like to train at exciting places where I won't get bored too fast.
But also in certain situations I like to train at easy places where I can watch TV and train.
All depends on situation. Typhons would be even greater if their feathers weren't untradable.
Just to get TakeBacker stirred up:
Spoiler
4th Job Brainstorming - Loose - 2009-01-04
ItzTaylor Wrote:But also in certain situations I like to train at easy places where I can watch TV and train.I do that all the time at Typhons, I rarely pay attention to what I'm doing. Maybe it's easier because it doesn't kill me in 2 or 3 hits.
But yes, I'm getting Energy Orb early. To get on topic. : P
4th Job Brainstorming - Russt - 2009-01-04
Takebacker Wrote:Nice small flat maps with 15 spawn points filled with fire weak monsters (pineapple yeah burner training for corsairs) that have 150k HP and give 6100 exp each.No. Pineapple conventionally 'normal' exp ratios. Give them over 9000 exp (I'm thinking around 11000) and make them spam fullscreen curse relentlessly. If you want "2x", bring hella all cures.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-04
ItzTaylor Wrote:Just to get TakeBacker stirred up:
Spoiler
Guess i'll just C+P my reasons to max flamethrower in this lil spoiler here:
Lolwut
Loltypo.
Russt Wrote:No. Pineapple conventionally 'normal' exp ratios. Give them over 9000 exp (I'm thinking around 11000) and make them spam fullscreen curse relentlessly. If you want "2x", bring hella all cures.
...You clever devil.
How much exp does curse take away, anyway? O_O
4th Job Brainstorming - Dusk - 2009-01-04
I'd prefer maps where spawn points are spaced out so although mobs can collect, mages wouldn't be able to hit more than 6 at a time with their ultimates as they spawn. Reduces their KSing potential drastically.
Takebacker Wrote:...You clever devil.Half.
How much exp does curse take away, anyway? O_O
And yeah, Flamethrower+Amp+Fire weak = very fast skill that hits for 720% on impact and a burn that carries the damage over 1200%. Do want. Flamethrower is a great skill to lead into Torpedo spamming.
4th Job Brainstorming - Russt - 2009-01-04
Takebacker Wrote:...You clever devil.Halves it.
How much exp does curse take away, anyway? O_O
Dusk: like Himes?
4th Job Brainstorming - Dusk - 2009-01-04
Russt Wrote:Halves it.
Dusk: like Himes?
Yes, except without the ridiculous boss that spawns all the time, and with slower monsters f5. Annoying as hell for archers.