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4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:See, that's what rusty suggested but i still don't see why. No stun mastery means 20 more points in charge/blast which are the two skills you obviously NEED at gobies. +60% per crit isn't going to help kill the house that much faster. o_o The bone fish on the other hand...
o_O? By then, I'll have maxed blast and charge if you followed my build.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
ZachAttack Wrote:o_O? By then, I'll have maxed blast and charge if you followed my build.
When are you talking about? I'm talking mid 80s dude. xD
Lol @ 6 people reading this at 3:30 in the morning est time.
4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:When are you talking about? I'm talking mid 80s dude. xD
My build maxes Charge and blast first. Then 11 drain.
You won't worry about stun or shock or transform until like, 10x or 11x.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
ZachAttack Wrote:My build maxes Charge and blast first. Then 11 drain.
You won't worry about stun or shock or transform until like, 10x or 11x.
So does mine. O_o
Oh wait. No it doesn't. Extremely basic still not the same build: Charge -> blast -> charge -> blast -> drain -> max charge -> max blast.
Edit: Oh i see. You said "change it to add stun mastery first" and i thought you meant from 70-77.
4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
Mine's almost the same.
It just alternates between charge and blast until they are both maxed, then drain.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
ZachAttack Wrote:Mine's almost the same.
It just alternates between charge and blast until they are both maxed, then drain.
Yeah, never really got why you would max blast before drain, but whatever.
It's the 4th job build when it comes to telling the difference between our guides, and i can tell you right now mine is a pomegranate load different than yours. xD
4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:Yeah, never really got why you would max blast before drain, but whatever.
It's the 4th job build when it comes to telling the difference between our guides, and i can tell you right now mine is a pomegranate load different than yours. xD
Hehe, lol.
Wait, what is drain used for, in terms of gobying?
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
ZachAttack Wrote:Hehe, lol.
Wait, what is drain used for, in terms of gobying?
Less pot costs/helping with bone fish i guess.
4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:Less pot costs/helping with bone fish i guess.
Is it worth getting earlier though? I have one point in it and it helps a load with my pots, but I'm not sure if it's worth it to get all those more points instead of maxing blast or charge earlier for a little more efficiency.
I dunno.
4th Job Brainstorming - DrRusty - 2009-01-02
ZachAttack Wrote:Hehe, lol.
Wait, what is drain used for, in terms of gobying?
It's easier to train with an auto locking skill when gobys are flying all around you.
About the 3rd job build. It's better to do 1 transform and 1 shockwave before you start trying to build up energy charge + energy blast. LvL 1 shockwave is definently better than lvl 1 energy blast.
4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
DrRusty Wrote:It's easier to train with an auto locking skill when gobys are flying all around you.
About the 3rd job build. It's better to do 1 transform and 1 shockwave before you start trying to build up energy charge + energy blast. LvL 1 shockwave is definently better than lvl 1 energy blast.
I have 1 in every single skill except stun mastery.
Well, I mean I have at least one
.Okay I'm confusing you/myself.
Basically, I have 1 in transform and shockwave, and 1 in drain already, yes.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
DrRusty Wrote:It's easier to train with an auto locking skill when gobys are flying all around you.
About the 3rd job build. It's better to do 1 transform and 1 shockwave before you start trying to build up energy charge + energy blast. LvL 1 shockwave is definently better than lvl 1 energy blast.
My build doesn't even get 1 blast until a few levels in charge anyway, and i nor anyone else would ever use 1 shockwave for actual training. If they wanted to, they'd just get it and have fun.
4th Job Brainstorming - DrRusty - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:My build doesn't even get 1 blast until a few levels in charge anyway, and i nor anyone else would ever use 1 shockwave for actual training. If they wanted to, they'd just get it and have fun.
with the release of magatia, lvl 1 shockwave sounds pretty good.
4th Job Brainstorming - ZachAttack - 2009-01-02
DrRusty Wrote:with the release of magatia, lvl 1 shockwave sounds pretty good.
Actually I don't find level 1 shockwave that much better than just spamming SSK on a self made mob because of how slow it is >_>.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
DrRusty Wrote:with the release of magatia, lvl 1 shockwave sounds pretty good.
Magatia sucks past 70. O_O Though it would be good for windraiders.
4th Job Brainstorming - Russt - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:Marauders never solo himes as far as i knowAnd why shouldn't they?
4th Job Brainstorming - Loose - 2009-01-02
Russt Wrote:And why shouldn't they?Because Himes are hacked.
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
Russt Wrote:And why shouldn't they?
What loose said.
4th Job Brainstorming - Russt - 2009-01-02
Takebacker Wrote:What loose said.That doesn't have anything to do with being a Marauder...
4th Job Brainstorming - Takebacker - 2009-01-02
Russt Wrote:That doesn't have anything to do with being a Marauder...
Fine.
Because 97% of marauders past 100 are leeching to 120 anyway. No srsly. I don't see a reason to solo himes. The exp cannot be much better than typhons (same exp per kill, but typhons have 12k less HP), the pot burn is a lot more than typhons, and it's 100 times more crowded than typhons regardless of whether you're in a party or not.