ShinkuDragon Wrote:i'll assume that's sarcasm. but they're still very well balanced looking at iamfear's post (better than other classes with two weapons at least) and i know how impossibly hard it is to get, but having a DSI+aswan line on your pally would mean that a 2h would be better than a shield (assumming someone funded, with over 200 attack, let's not even go into tyrant gear funded)

so it boils down to "what you find easier, getting a shield and a DSI line, or getting DSI and aswan lines?"

(i'm aware of new aswan before anyone says a thing.

JoeTang Wrote:I thought they changed 1H weapons to 1.3x or something a lot closer to 2H.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:do you remember when? if you think the change should be in GMS already i could go and do and quick check.

UltimaSteele Wrote:No, it was changed to 1.34 at some point down the line. Also, I thought +1 attack speed was only ~8% increase in DPS? Regardless, I think 2h have the edge now for the funded and unfunded.

iAmFear Wrote:Well, it could potentially be easier since you have a set rank for your IA now, once you get to legendary, there's a much greater chance of staying at legendary when you circulate (just your first line draws from Legendary though and it'd cost NX), versus now where your Inner Abilites can draw from any of the ranks.



Really? I don't remember them changing it. They barely ever change multipliers.

hadriel Wrote:%DPS increase in +1-IAS is strongly dependent on skill and class/game playstyle. 8-10% is purely theoretical.

If they now make secondary weapons have the Guardian effect, and that the WA multiplier between 1H and 2H isn't that much different, then it boils down to slots and attack speed before speed cap. It makes 2H paladins happy, but does make shield users feel that their shield serves less purpose than it used to. Tit-for-tat I guess.

Hadriel

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[*]Archer Skills Rebalanced:

2nd Job - Hunter:

• Quiver Cartridge: Bow Master [Specialized Skill]. Create Draining, Poison, or Magic arrows to use in combat. Depending on the situation, use Quiver Cartridge to change your current type of arrow. While you can create an infinite number of arrows, after using up the existing arrows in your quiver, you will have to create more. In the event you do not want your current or remaining arrows, quick fire skills are available to spend them quickly, allowing you to refill your quiver afterwards. When changing arrows, the available arrows will be displayed in an icon, with the remaining number listed.
  
• Silver Hawk: To accommodate new skills, and the fact that two summons cannot be used at the same time, this skill has been deleted.
  

3rd Job - Ranger:

• Concentration: When you successfully hit an enemy, increase your status effect resistance. When you successfully resist a fatal status effect, this skill will enter a cooldown. For non-fatal status effects, the increased status effect resistance will reset instead without entering a cooldown. Use rapid fire skills to increase your resistance quickly.
  
• Puppet: The Marksman class now focuses more on distance control, lending to better usage of a skill like Puppet. Comparatively, the utility for the Bow Master class is much lower, since they have more options/disregard towards mobile monsters. As such, this skill has been deleted.
  
• Drain Arrow: Due to Quiver Cartridge's Draining Arrows, this skill has been deleted.
  
• Concentration: The weapon attack effect has been moved to Soul Arrow: Bow, and this skill has been deleted. (The new skill uses a transliteration of the English word "Concentration", the old skill used the Korean word for Concentration, 집중.
  
• Arrow Rain: Deleted.
  

4th Job - Bow Master:

• Advanced Flame Shot: Due to the addition of Uncountable Arrow, this skill has been deleted.
  
• Spirit Link: Phoenix: Total damage has been moved to Marksmanship, Defense bonus has been moved to Phoneix, Max HP has been moved to Climbing Hooks, Status Effect has been replaced with Concentration's effect. As such, this skill has been deleted.
  
• Elite Puppet: Damage reduction has been moved to Illusion Step, and this skill along with Puppet have been deleted.
  

Lozmaster Wrote:Nexon Korea, please, stop what you're doing before it's too late =_=

hadriel Wrote:If you're moving around and mobbing, there is only so much that IAS can provide. It IS a theoretical amount that is fairly accurately reflected when bossing. But if you're an AB and you have latency like mine...

I noticed something. They made Illusion Arrow do 100,000% reflected damage? Is that for real? Planting that on HT's tail means doing in the order of 100,000*1000 = 100m damage...

Hadriel

Combattente Wrote:Also, [MENTION=535]JoeTang[/MENTION]:

"Extreme Archery: Crossbow: Decrease your physical and magical defense to improve your attack. ON/OFF Skill."

Considering the icon is different than Ranger's, as well as the description (Google Translate: "Enabling Skills Physical / Magical evasion value decreases and increases critical chance and critical damage. \ N use the skills that the effect is activated and deactivated when re-skill on and off # c #"), I think it meant "decreate your avoidability to improve your critical chance and damage".

Overall, it's not a bad revamp at all. But some things NEED to be adjusted. I definitely hope they will.

Death Wrote:Blast is a 1 hit skill again + faster.
Rosario triggers shield mastery.

I like this a lot already.
Not quite sure what they mean by different colours for blast with different charges.
(Also, where the heck am I going to put 4 different mobbing skills?)

Or did I misunderstood something here?

IImaplers Wrote:"damage and number of hits has been adjusted." -Can't tell if buff or nerf :f6:

Takebacker Wrote:If the same skill for bowmen is really accuracy...

YennoX Wrote:I think when it's a buff, they outright say that 'x has been increased'. Only when it's a nerf, they don't specify the exact details. Softening the blow, I suppose?

Pink Bean Wrote:it SHOULD be accuracy, for both marksmen and bowmasters.

it's defense, since we're now more mobility orientated.
the stat is utterly useless (save for IA accuracy to damage conversion, but who really wants that over bossing %)

Pink Bean Wrote:it SHOULD be accuracy, for both marksmen and bowmasters.

it's defense, since we're now more mobility orientated.
the stat is utterly useless (save for IA accuracy to damage conversion, but who really wants that over bossing %)

Aggravate Wrote:No, even the Inner Ability of Accuracy to Damage Conversion is weak at best since you see an increase in your attack range, but in reality, it just adds to your final damage.