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Video of updated KMST pirate skills - shouri - 2009-01-27
Opeth Wrote:I can't tell if you're a troll or not. Between your inability to accept that a Dragon Strike first build is far superior to anything you've ever come up with, and your excessive use of retarded smilies really blurs the line from sincerity to "LOL I TROL U."
Face it man, Demo first build is a very, very foolish mistake. I don't care if your "end level" is 140.
Actually opeth, if someone's end level is 140, and they dont give a pineapple about Dragon Strike, then a demo first build isn't all that far fetched. Granted barrage first might be better off if they only wanted barrage and demo til they hit 140 as their end level and dragon strike has already been thoroughly proven to be better training ... but that last line of yours was a bit uncalled for. Not everyone cares about doing the most efficient thing in maplestory.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - DrRusty - 2009-01-27
shouri Wrote:Actually opeth, if someone's end level is 140, and they dont give a pineapple about Dragon Strike, then a demo first build isn't all that far fetched. Granted barrage first might be better off if they only wanted barrage and demo til they hit 140 as their end level and dragon strike has already been thoroughly proven to be better training ... but that last line of yours was a bit uncalled for. Not everyone cares about doing the most efficient thing in maplestory.
Yah except demolition doesn't even do the best damage over time. He wants to boss, and needs the best damage over time, he should get barrage first. Barrage's delay has also been reduced...... has anyone forgot to mention that? *reads through thread* looks like I mentioned it only once.
With that 2 minute cooldown, not having barrage will mean your damage over time won't be as high as someone who went barrage first.
The dude in the video went demolition first, and here's a video of him killing pap. He definently has maxed demolition, and close to (or maybe it is) maxed super transform. I'm going by comparing his damage with demolition damage to barrage and going by his cooldown in this next video.
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34208264&categid=2955770&page=8
that's him at pap. It takes til the end of the video for him to actually show the decreased delay of barrage (he starts doing barrage > screw punch > barrage). He definently likes using his drain that's for sure XD.
11 minutes to kill pap is pretty damn fast. Especially considering his range is barely higher than mine is right now at 130. He did optimize speed by time leaping his super transform though, he wouldn't be able to do that a second time. I was a bit disappointed in his control when his demolition ran out though
. He couldn't even keep himself attacking pap.I bet i could do a 9 min run without using demolition at the same level
. Let's see, his highest drain was a 19k. That 16x buc at newties on youtube, could also do 17k with drain, and his buffed range was like 4.9k. That's the same range I got with energy charge + mw 20. So i'm not to far off that damage (especially considering all i'm doing is saving mesos to upgrade once i get a HT egg. Once I get my egg i'm gonna do a crapload of upgradin).
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Takebacker - 2009-01-28
Anyone know/want to guess the casts per second on blast with the new change? Looks a bit slower than FF to me.
Ok, did some math. Because i'm a nerd, imma do this C++ style. :3
if (blast_speed == flash_fist_speed)
{
blast_DPS = 37xx%
pure_shockwave_DPS = ~2583%
}
else if (blast_speed == triple_throw_speed)
blast_DPS = ~2800%
:3
Shockwave is now inferior in all regards in every single situation with these new changes.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Link - 2009-01-28
Takebacker Wrote:Anyone know/want to guess the casts per second on blast with the new change? Looks a bit slower than FF to me.
Ok, did some math. Because i'm a nerd, imma do this C++ style. :3
if (blast_speed == flash_fist_speed)
{
blast_DPS = 37xx%
pure_shockwave_DPS = ~2583%
}
else if (blast_speed == triple_throw_speed)
blast_DPS = ~2800%
:3
Shockwave is now inferior in all regards in every single situation with these new changes.
Lol. If that's the case, they should change Shockwave to make it useful. I mean, why have an attacking skill that's completely useless compared to the other skills?
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Takebacker - 2009-01-28
ShiKage Wrote:Lol. If that's the case, they should change Shockwave to make it useful. I mean, why have an attacking skill that's completely useless compared to the other skills?
At least they made transform better. I'll take 120 seconds of haste over 120 seconds of haste and a shitty mob skill any day.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - DrRusty - 2009-01-28
ShiKage Wrote:Lol. If that's the case, they should change Shockwave to make it useful. I mean, why have an attacking skill that's completely useless compared to the other skills?
every class has useless skills. There was one guy on sleepywood comparing shockwave/dragon strike to how thunderspear shouldn't be maxed in 3rd job because they get chain lightning in 4th.
I think after the KMST updates, bucs will be a great class, and they should leave everything the way it is. I mean..... come the fk on...... did u see that dude at time temple? He was fking rapingggggggg. Those mobs were running away holding their ass cause they got raped so bad. Not to mention he was pretty much invincible the whole time.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Russt - 2009-01-28
Takebacker Wrote:Anyone know/want to guess the casts per second on blast with the new change? Looks a bit slower than FF to me.I thought it was more on the order of Angel Ray speed... in which case you'd have ~2352%.
Ok, did some math. Because i'm a nerd, imma do this C++ style. :3
if (blast_speed == flash_fist_speed)
{
blast_DPS = 37xx%
pure_shockwave_DPS = ~2583%
}
else if (blast_speed == triple_throw_speed)
blast_DPS = ~2800%
:3
Shockwave is now inferior in all regards in every single situation with these new changes.
But keep in mind that you reach that DPS by hitting 4 monsters, and with Shockwave you have to hit six. Not to mention Blast takes less of a hit from overkilling.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - DrRusty - 2009-01-28
Russt Wrote:I thought it was more on the order of Angel Ray speed... in which case you'd have ~2352%.
But keep in mind that you reach that DPS by hitting 4 monsters, and with Shockwave you have to hit six. Not to mention Blast takes less of a hit from overkilling.
Well when we get the updates we'll know for sure. Judging by the time difference of when he did use it twice in a row; it's definently a huge improvement in speed. Saying it's as fast as flash fist might not be an underestimate, well unboosted flash fist. It's definently not as fast as a boosted flash fist.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Takebacker - 2009-01-28
Russt Wrote:I thought it was more on the order of Angel Ray speed... in which case you'd have ~2352%.
But keep in mind that you reach that DPS by hitting 4 monsters, and with Shockwave you have to hit six. Not to mention Blast takes less of a hit from overkilling.
And you can move while using it.
And platform length is irrelevant.
And energy charge is active more than transform.
And much more.
:3
Angel ray though? No way it's that slow...i must be blind. :/
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - IllegallySane - 2009-02-05
Energy Blast = Flash Fist speed = ZOMG!
CSB + DS = godmode mobbing
Hmm...
Where do you think this puts Buccaneers on the Tier totem pole? I felt we were at borderline middle/slightly underpowered before since CSB + DS leads to huge pot burning. :f6:
I know Bishops, Night Lords, Bowmasters, and Heroes are all at the top tier for obvious reasons.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - LuiPoo - 2009-02-06
RAWR NOW I CANT WAIT TILL I HIT 180 ON MY NIGHT LORD
i'm on brake from my bucca untill then ;-; </3
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Burnup - 2009-02-09
Hell yea!
Transformation's usefulness has increased 3 fold
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Takebacker - 2009-02-09
Burnup Wrote:Hell yea!
Transformation's usefulness has increased 3 fold
Not really. In 4th job, it's still only for bossing. In 3rd job, yay haste? That's all it's good for.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Bribery - 2009-02-13
Here's the same guy using Dragon Strike and Shockwave combo in transform:
Level 160 Buccaneer
The video doesn't always work for some reason, but it shows that alternating Dragon Strike and Shockwave can be a good combo.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Takebacker - 2009-02-13
Can be, but i see no point at all. One because DS doesn't have much of a delay at all and two because snatch is much better.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Worthyness - 2009-02-14
oooOOoo you can use 4th job stuff in 3rd job transform too
More flashy stuff xDAs for the vid, I use Internet explorer. Tends to load faster 0_o
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Link - 2009-02-18
I went on KMS yesterday to try out the speed of Energy Blast on my Striker... O M F G! It's so freaking fast! It's only level one and it beats my Straight and SommerSault kick! It's now about the speed of SommerSault Kick.
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - DrRusty - 2009-02-18
ShiKage Wrote:I went on KMS yesterday to try out the speed of Energy Blast on my Striker... O M F G! It's so freaking fast! It's only level one and it beats my Straight and SommerSault kick! It's now about the speed of SommerSault Kick.
so now will everyone shut up about putting 30 points in shockwave......
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Link - 2009-02-18
DrRusty Wrote:so now will everyone shut up about putting 30 points in shockwave......
Shockwave? What's that? :f6:
Video of updated KMST pirate skills - Takebacker - 2009-02-18
Well, if blast is that fast then there's no point maxing either shockwave or orb since blast is better and on par with their damage capacity.