Dark Link Wrote:Hard Mode -> 20 Deaths -> IMPOSSIBLE MODE

Devil Wrote:Total noob at the controls there...

So much NX to cover up with high dps for the noob controls...

Such terrible boss design...

So little Maplestory...

Realizing this -is- still Maplestory...

Endgame Wrote:I just watched the Hard Mode video.

.....

I'm not sure what I should blame poor design on, the game its self, or Magnus' mechanics.

But this certainly can't be a good thing. If Magnus is the boss before the Black Mage..... (Hey Wizet. Remember Orchid and Lotus?) what the hell is the Black Mage going to do?!

sw2009 Wrote:Wonders if the angelic burster is played by other players like devil who can say avoid those rocks and hit magnus at the same time, and say there are 6 angelic burster like him, who can avoid all the bombardment = 0 deaths. Wont hard mode be child's play? Assuming average control, 'non noob' and able to avoid all the falling rocks = 0 deaths. I believe with sufficient practise, it will be child's play?

However, what about those jobs like mercedes,mechanics and whatever, where they have to shoot dodge and redodge, resulting in 'time out' ?

Question Wrote:100 balls falling per sec
it not fun... even with no pot cooldown u know y? blue and purple are instant dead if u get hit by those f3

Liteness Wrote:uh you revive in map so i dont see how that matters when you can revive infinite times

Liteness Wrote:uh you revive in map so i dont see how that matters when you can revive infinite times

Niernen Wrote:Death count and timer. Not to mention dieing is annoying.

Thunderbro Wrote:He gets harder the more times you die, and if your busy being dead the whole time, the timer will run out.

Flonne Wrote:MS is like, one of the only MMOs that has no pot cooldown. If people actually learned to control their characters instead of relying on permanent godmode, endgame bosses would all be cake. Though, in this case, it's not -entirely- their fault, it's Nexon's fault for coding such a crappy potion system to begin with.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:ok, someone tell me why this is bad design? honestly, we got DPS races with CPB and empress already, and this is a 2-D game, WHAT ELSE can you do to make a boss hard in this game than adding shittons of life?

honestly, i like what they did with magnus, a lot. the fact you have to worry more about the stage hazards than him make it an interesting boss fight and something new to look forward too.

Polantaris Wrote:There's a difference between potion cooldown and excessive potion cooldown. Anytime potion cooldown exists in MS, it's what...30 seconds to a minute? That's a tad much. The only games that can pull off minute potion cooldowns are games where the monsters don't do 50%+ of your HP in a single hit. Any time Maple has something with Potion Cooldown it becomes a game of cat and mouse for 90% of the cooldown because you don't want to die, and getting hit twice equals death on a lot of characters at big bosses.



I agree for the most part, but having stage hazards that cause insta-death are retarded.

Insta-death anything is retarded.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:normally, i'd agree that insta-death is retarded, but considering you can slap a bishop and have it just spam heal, it HAS to have instadeath, otherwise it would be a DPSrace+bishop anyways.

do note though, insta-death irks me as much as you, warrior+aswan OHKO is not nice.

Polantaris Wrote:They could just as easily add a cooldown to Heal as they do to Potions (Though hopefully reduced, maybe 5 seconds would be fine).

In the same light as other MMOs, Healers either cannot heal the entire party, have a cast time for their healing, or have a cooldown for the better healing. None of those are present on Bishops, so having a small cooldown on Heal would not be the end of the world.

Polantaris Wrote:There's a difference between potion cooldown and excessive potion cooldown. Anytime potion cooldown exists in MS, it's what...30 seconds to a minute? That's a tad much. The only games that can pull off minute potion cooldowns are games where the monsters don't do 50%+ of your HP in a single hit. Any time Maple has something with Potion Cooldown it becomes a game of cat and mouse for 90% of the cooldown because you don't want to die, and getting hit twice equals death on a lot of characters at big bosses.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:normally, i'd agree that insta-death is retarded, but considering you can slap a bishop and have it just spam heal, it HAS to have instadeath, otherwise it would be a DPSrace+bishop anyways.

do note though, insta-death irks me as much as you, warrior+aswan OHKO is not nice.

Endgame Wrote:Most point and clicks don't have potion cooldowns, and thus, have the exact same "godmode" as long as you have the HP to take the hit as Maple Story.