Indignation Wrote:It's funny how before pirates came out, everyone thought that NL's were the strongest class and then when pirates came out, NL's get bumped behind BM's.

Sorry if this sounded offensive, I just found it amusing.

fiftyschmooo Wrote:Wow nice damage Fiel !!! your not even using an attack potion in that SS which is epic oh great leader of this southperry world as we know it


Your not Bursting my bubble... but from what people say, a NL is the best attacker regardless of having SE or not... and i just owned one which had 11 lvls on me and had apple registered for liek 8 mins for which i only had 12 atk pot activated, you can't burst that bubble, i am very proud of that accomplishment, and any class that has just passed a class that was always seen as "stronger" since the beginning of time, while under those circumstances, has the right to be happy imo



Totally agree'd lol when 4th first came out and i was working my Hero it was always OMG GET A NL FOR ZAK CUZ THEYRE STRONGEST, and now when we people Zak ive seen a lot more OMG GET ANOTHER BM/MM (even if they already have one,

i love how a lot of NL's pull the whole "oh well we suck without SE" then i get to pull the whole "well no.. you just suck cause my class doesnt need to rely on anyone else"

Takerbacker Wrote:NLs always sucked. Though for some weird ass reason because NLs started being awesome in one certain situation, everyone thought they were the strongest in the game in all situations.

Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:No, NL w/o SE just sucks. I can KS an appled non-SE'd NL when I'm on ciders.




It's because of alchemist. On a zakum run a couple weeks ago, the last apple could have gone to

18x DrK
17x corsair
14x NL w/o SE

Based on gears and stuff, the order I listed was best dps --> worse. But the NL got the apple because the leader said "alchemist"

Funny cause, I told him [and other people did too] that my DPS [and the DrK's too] were better than the NL on apple if we were just using ciders. His reasoning: "It's still 5 minutes more"

*facepalms*

fiftyschmooo Wrote:Yes i infact did mean that i got the kill EXP and not the killing blow, which means i dealt more damage then the NL ...
And no we did not have SE on this paticular run... but i wasent using anyother skills from another class... no SI ... own MW.. i guess im saying... during 1st 2nd and 3rd body of Zak when a 165 NL has apples for liek 18-19 mins and my 154 Corsair has apples for a total of 10 mins... deals more damage

GummyBear Wrote:Not too sure but if you're on a different party as the NL, then you'd get white exp too. Most of the time, it just come down to who got the last hit in to get white exp, and the rest of your party leeches yellow exp. How it works between parties now is still a mystery.

As for NL vs <another class>, you should really considered the gained in 4th job. What did NL get? Well, damage boosting skills are TT and Maple Warriors (common). Venom doesnt work on boss. Fake is half ass, as it dodges attacks, yet not status. Compares that to say bowman or warriors who got alot more. So pre-4th job, hermits are formidable. After 4th job, they get little boosts. It's the intention of the maker. That's how it is. Nothing funny about it.

Dark Knights get a small bit of mastery (but still have huge gaps between min/max), 3 attack advantage over Dragon Blood (doesn't matter when using Apples, or, worse, overrides them), and a skill that only works at low HP. That's it for us. Don't complain

MasPan Wrote:Dark Knights get a small bit of mastery (but still have huge gaps between min/max), 3 attack advantage over Dragon Blood (doesn't matter when using Apples, or, worse, overrides them), and a skill that only works at low HP. That's it for us. Don't complain

fiftyschmooo Wrote:And the Satisfaction continues just beat a 160 Bucc @ Zak bodys (i was 156 ) , man i love being a corsair when it comes to anything u dont need over liek 5K hp for

Indignation Wrote:Well of course you can beat a buccaneer, Mr. Corsair. =)
I would rather have low DPS and use 0 pots while soloing a boss though. =)

Vernacular Wrote:I love being able to spew lightning enraged sharks from my fists and then kamehameha away the giant mob of Blue Kents, with sparks of lightning jolting out from each attack hitting two and then critting for greater damage.



EDIT;
Also I am grateful for the sharks of the lightning element and the blessing of buster to grant me 40 percent an hour at these Kent of the blue colour, my damage shall soon increase and become more and more powerful as my lightning enraged powers come to the fearful Viking of the spirit tribe. Then I shall destroy and ravish the lands until I have moved to their elders, the Gigantic Spirit Vikings. All along the way hoping to find one of the precious shuriken known as the "Illbi"

MasPan Wrote:I'll stick with my windraiders, tyvm. 800 exp for 16k hp is win.