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ACTA. - Locked - 2012-01-22
Since the SOPA thread has already done its purpose, I feel as if more attention is needed to this treaty.
A brief Youtube video explaining it.
[video=youtube;citzRjwk-sQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ[/video]
And another.
[video=youtube;dmQN93NqqDM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmQN93NqqDM[/video]
The actual treaty.(PDF)
ACTA. - Seanny - 2012-01-22
world's got a hard-on for the big brother thing nowadays eh?
ACTA. - Worthyness - 2012-01-22
look! more people who don't know what the internet is capable of and how awesome the internet really is!
I mean really though. Did any of these people see what the internet did to the FBI when it shutdown Megaupload? Do you really wan the entire internet to hate you that much?
ACTA. - Raul - 2012-01-22
Worthyness Wrote:look! more people who don't know what the internet is capable of and how awesome the internet really is!
I mean really though. Did any of these people see what the internet did to the FBI when it shutdown Megaupload? Do you really wan the entire internet to hate you that much?
Apparently, people underestimate the power of several thousand people DDoSing a site at once.
ACTA. - CommanderJinn - 2012-01-23
I think people grasp the power a DoS attack really has. At that's not much power at all. It's the equivalent of tearing down a promotional poster. It sends a message sure, but frankly, I don't think these people care that much.
ACTA. - Raul - 2012-01-23
CommanderJinn Wrote:I think people grasp the power a DoS attack really has. At that's not much power at all. It's the equivalent of tearing down a promotional poster. It sends a message sure, but frankly, I don't think these people care that much.
Well, it's a propaganda thing.
It's not directed at the site, it's to draw attention to the cause.
It's like taking a wrecking ball and smashing the wall with the poster on it, then shooting off fireworks.
ACTA. - Luxeraph - 2012-01-23
Raul Wrote:Well, it's a propaganda thing.Huh?
It's not directed at the site, it's to draw attention to the cause.
It's like taking a wrecking ball and smashing the wall with the poster on it, then shooting off fireworks.
I'm sure (but not 100% sure, so if I'm wrong anyone is welcome to correct me) that most media wont cover it (or at least the big ones) so the only people that would hear of it are the ones that would like that building torn down, only problem is that the wall the wrecking ball smashed was just the fence wall (or how ever its called) so at most the ones in the building got a little annoyed at having to fix it.
And I'm pretty sure they wont go deeper because that would mean jail time for almost all the kids doing the DDoS inside the US.
ACTA. - Raul - 2012-01-23
Luxeraph Wrote:Huh?
I'm sure (but not 100% sure, so if I'm wrong anyone is welcome to correct me) that most media wont cover it (or at least the big ones) so the only people that would hear of it are the ones that would like that building torn down, only problem is that the wall the wrecking ball smashed was just the fence wall (or how ever its called) so at most the ones in the building got a little annoyed at having to fix it.
And I'm pretty sure they wont go deeper because that would mean jail time for almost all the kids doing the DDoS inside the US.
I dunno, it was all over the news after they DDoS'd the DoJ.
ACTA. - Luxeraph - 2012-01-23
Raul Wrote:I dunno, it was all over the news after they DDoS'd the DoJ.Well good to see I was wrong, was thinking they didn't report it since it took like a couple of months (or was it a couple of weeks?) for the big networks to report about occupy wall street.
ACTA. - Flonne - 2012-01-23
Worthyness Wrote:look! more people who don't know what the internet is capable of and how awesome the internet really is!
I mean really though. Did any of these people see what the internet did to the FBI when it shutdown Megaupload? Do you really wan the entire internet to hate you that much?
That was only 5600 people, and they took down several large label music/movie corporations, the RIAA, the MPAA, and DoJ, too. Hardly the entire internet; even just 100,000 people could take down the entire US government indefinitely. So yes, technically, they are underestimating people, but only because the internet is such a bottleneck at this point computers can outprocess it a million times over.
ACTA. - FenixR - 2012-01-23
Flonne Wrote:That was only 5600 people, and they took down several large label music/movie corporations, the RIAA, the MPAA, and DoJ, too. Hardly the entire internet; even just 100,000 people could take down the entire US government indefinitely. So yes, technically, they are underestimating people, but only because the internet is such a bottleneck at this point computers can outprocess it a million times over.
Its like... a lot of people even bother checking those sites in the first place? What do you win taking down sites that doesnt get much trafic in the first place?
ACTA. - Luxeraph - 2012-01-23
FenixR Wrote:Its like... a lot of people even bother checking those sites in the first place? What do you win taking down sites that doesnt get much trafic in the first place?I think they notice it since they're making more aggressive attacks (not too aggressive):
http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/3468 (only english source I could find)
In spanish (there are several news sites reporting it but its pretty much the same everywhere):
http://mx.noticias.yahoo.com/anonymous-subi%C3%B3-web-cat%C3%A1logo-completo-sony-music-171700290.html
ACTA. - FenixR - 2012-01-23
Sad thing is, just online "Protesting" isnt going to cut it. It needs to be mixed with some real protesting and phone calls and pomegranate to stop the retarded bills on their tracks.
ACTA. - Flonne - 2012-01-23
FenixR Wrote:Its like... a lot of people even bother checking those sites in the first place? What do you win taking down sites that doesnt get much trafic in the first place?
Depends on if they are just targeting the web servers. If they are bringing down some of the internal servers used for actual business, it is an issue, but yeah, if it's just the webservers, unless it's an ecommerce site it's not a big deal.
ACTA. - Netto - 2012-01-23
What the hell's with all these terrible bills?
![[Image: tumblr_lya0xu37td1qky09n.jpg]](http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lya0xu37td1qky09n.jpg)
Congress needs an overhaul starting with the SOPA creator.
ACTA. - FenixR - 2012-01-23
Netto Wrote:What the hell's with all these terrible bills?
Congress needs an overhaul starting with the SOPA creator.
Congress? We need to fucking restart the world and see if we dont pineapple it up again.
ACTA. - Loose - 2012-01-23
Well, it is 2012, so...
ACTA. - FenixR - 2012-01-23
Loose Wrote:Well, it is 2012, so...
I shall begin working on that judgement day device, expect it to be finished around december.
ACTA. - Foxino - 2012-01-23
lol you kidding right? When will the world stop being so fucking power and money hungry and use their heads for something productive?
Starting by putting someone who knows how to send an email in charge of this acts/bills..
ACTA. - Locked - 2012-01-26
ACTA to be signed today.
Thousands riot in Poland over ACTA.